Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 20th Mar 2012 21:01 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless Because I've been spending days browsing through XDA, reading CM changelogs, and flashing nightly builds, I'm still in an Android state of mind, so excuse me for more talk on the subject. An interesting study has been performed which found that advertisements in Android applications are a huge battery drain - they account for up to 75% of an application's battery usage.
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RE[3]: websites?
by maccouch on Wed 21st Mar 2012 12:19 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: websites?"
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apart from your "a tad violent" phrasing, the issue is that i cant/is-not-viable to selectively use the adblock. I enable it and it sits there doing its job. I don't even remember it anymore.

What do you propose? that i deliberately go into each site with adblock disabled and then enable it if the website uses too many ads or ads that are not my-taste-suitable? that's just dreaming.

I agree with you that ads can be non-annoying or obtruding but unfortunately 99.9% of the ads today in 99.999% of the websites are. How can we tell them apart?

ideally, and if i could just ask that from the internet deities, Adblock would be standard on every browser with two small changes:

1) that i can whitelist ad-networks.
exampe: the Fusion Ads on most mac centric blogs/websites are pretty nice. one ad per page and content is relevant to the add and vice-versa.

2) that i can say: "i want to see at most N adds" and then the Adnetworks and Website managers would order their adds in importance order on the website code.
So, if you just can show me 2 adds, what will they be? you can't shove 99 ads trough my throat, so please just chose 2!

That would probably satisfy both parties and would make a usable system. but unfortunately it seems too reasonable to actually get a change in the race-to-the-bottom tech world we live in.


i had a quick reflection on our disability to be reasonable like this on my blog: and i think i will probably just post this comment there also. Maybe here and there someone will read it and help us to make it happen.

Edited 2012-03-21 12:27 UTC

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RE[4]: websites?
by pandronic on Wed 21st Mar 2012 14:01 in reply to "RE[3]: websites?"
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The "violent phrasing" is directed at people who take all the work that site owners do for granted. Most site owners are not rich, they are normal people, some do this for a living and can be dependent on the ad revenue to pay their mortgages and put their kids through school. Then some asshole (I'm not talking about you ;) ) comes and proclaims from behind his computer monitor that site owners should basically work for free for his enjoyment or benefit. How is that fair?

What I'm saying is that what I'd like to offer my users is a "take it or leave it" kind of deal - this is my website - either you use all of it, or none of it. Am I not reasonable?

That being said, I despise advertising. I think that a product should succeed or fail based on its merits and not on marketing campaigns and budgets. But that is not the world we live in. I'm also a fan of reasonably priced paywalls with proper trials. But then an asshole comes with crappy, but ad-supported "free" content and most users will go for that even if they would be better off paying for content in the long run, instead of wasting their time with half-baked copypasta. But again, that's the world we live in.

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RE[5]: websites?
by drcouzelis on Wed 21st Mar 2012 20:13 in reply to "RE[4]: websites?"
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Then some asshole comes and proclaims from behind his computer monitor that site owners should basically work for free for his enjoyment or benefit. How is that fair?

I'm not saying that you have to work for free. I'm saying that people are not morally obligated to allow advertisements to be downloaded and displayed on their computers.

I assume someone will then respond to this with, "But then how will the website owner make money?" Well, I don't know, but if I did, I'd probably be rich.

Personally, I choose to browse the Internet without advertisements. I also have a website that I host for free without advertisements, but that's probably irrelavant since I only get about 10 visitors per month...

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