Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 21st Mar 2012 23:54 UTC
Games As I made very clear in my thorough review of Mass Effect 2, I'm a huge BioWare fan. This relationship got very, very cloudy when BioWare released Dragon Age II, a rush job with no story and atrocious gameplay. Mass Effect 3 looked like redemption - until I hit the terrible, terrible ending. The criticism of the ending has been so immense and consistent, BioWare is contemplating changing it. Of course, this story is riddled with spoilers, so be warned.
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Mass Effect is terrible
by WorknMan on Thu 22nd Mar 2012 01:30 UTC
WorknMan
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2005-11-13

This relationship got very, very cloudy when BioWare released Dragon Age II, a rush job with no story and atrocious gameplay.


Well, I've never played Dragon Age II, but from the way you describe it, the only difference between it and Mass Effect is the no story part. I tried playing Mass Effect 1, and the gameplay was just terrible. About a year or so later, I got bored and decided to read the Mass Effect 'prequel' novel. I rather liked it, so decided to give Mass Effect another shot, and I just couldn't get into it. People say that ME2 was an improvement over the original, although I can't imagine how.

There was an article posted on Ars not too long ago where they asked readers if a good story mattered in a game. Almost all of the readers said it did matter, and after playing games like Mass Effect, it's not hard to understand why; most modern games are complete garbage and so monotonous, a good story is pretty much required, just to have a reason to plod through them. I've heard reviewers say about certain games (*cough* Alan Wake *cough*) 'I liked everything about this game except actually playing it', and the game still gets 4 or 5 stars. WTF?

If you're about to hit the thumbs down button and mod me down, think about this... if games like Mass Effect didn't have a story to them, would you still bother to play them? Probably not, and we all know why... because the actual game underneath is shit. Actually, these aren't really games when you think about it... they're more like interactive movies with lame bits of action in between the cut scenes. And honestly, if I want to watch a f**king movie, I'll just rent one. Or else, if you're looking for a good story, why not just read a book instead?

It's too bad about Mass Effect though, as they appear to have a good story. If they made novels of these games, I would read those. But I'm not about to waste my time with the games.

Edited 2012-03-22 01:33 UTC

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RE: Mass Effect is terrible
by lucas_maximus on Thu 22nd Mar 2012 10:09 in reply to "Mass Effect is terrible"
lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

Everyone slags off call of duty and the old FPS games like Quake for being repetitive, same with told 2D fighting games such as Street Fighter Alpha, Capcom vs SNK and Guilty Gear XX.

The stories for call of duty is pretty much total garbage, it pretty much comes down to "kill the bad man, with some brief interludes between missions". But the games are fun mainly because you pretty much a 1 man army in the game.

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RE: Mass Effect is terrible
by prince1422 on Sat 24th Mar 2012 02:55 in reply to "Mass Effect is terrible"
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2012-03-24

In response to what you've written about the Mass Effect series being a terrible game, you're sorely mistaken; the Mass Effect trilogy is an enticing game that's crafted for the story, art, action, and many others.

All of the true fans know that the games core is truly beautiful, I can't give you a thumbs down for that is your own opinion, but here's my challenge to you; pick up Mass Effect 2, and then tell me whether or not you were able to put the controller down.

Spoiler Alert: Shepard's one of the most genuine, authentic characters in quite some time! Consider this a challenge.
Now give me something.

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RE[2]: Mass Effect is terrible
by WorknMan on Sat 24th Mar 2012 04:11 in reply to "RE: Mass Effect is terrible"
WorknMan Member since:
2005-11-13

All of the true fans know that the games core is truly beautiful, I can't give you a thumbs down for that is your own opinion, but here's my challenge to you; pick up Mass Effect 2, and then tell me whether or not you were able to put the controller down.


I might try it, but let me ask you something. If you removed ALL of the story beats such that the game just consisted of gameplay without any cut scenes or dialog wheels, would you still bother to play it?

I'm not asking if the game would still be as good without the story, as of course it wouldn't. Just like a good game is made BETTER with good graphics, that is also true of a good story, but a bad game with good graphics is still a bad game...

I'm just asking if the gameplay is good enough to stand on its own. In other words, without considering the story, is there even a reason why somebody should play this?

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