Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 21st Mar 2012 23:54 UTC
Games As I made very clear in my thorough review of Mass Effect 2, I'm a huge BioWare fan. This relationship got very, very cloudy when BioWare released Dragon Age II, a rush job with no story and atrocious gameplay. Mass Effect 3 looked like redemption - until I hit the terrible, terrible ending. The criticism of the ending has been so immense and consistent, BioWare is contemplating changing it. Of course, this story is riddled with spoilers, so be warned.
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RE: My take on Bioware
by Soulbender on Thu 22nd Mar 2012 08:13 UTC in reply to "My take on Bioware"
Soulbender
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2005-08-18

AND I FUCKING glad that there was no "And they lived happilly ever after" ending. Serious ending to a serious story.


Why can't serious stories have happy endings?

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RE[2]: My take on Bioware
by MORB on Thu 22nd Mar 2012 09:38 in reply to "RE: My take on Bioware"
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2005-07-06

Why should every story have a happy ending? That's the one thing that irks me the most about most hollywood movies.

Plus ME3 isn't actually a sad ending, you do prevent the annihilation of every civilization in the galaxy, don't you? There's even one possible ending where shepard somehow doesn't die (although what actually happens is kind of confusing, but all of the endings have that particular issue)

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RE[3]: My take on Bioware
by Thom_Holwerda on Thu 22nd Mar 2012 10:00 in reply to "RE[2]: My take on Bioware"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Plus ME3 isn't actually a sad ending, you do prevent the annihilation of every civilization in the galaxy, don't you? There's even one possible ending where shepard somehow doesn't die (although what actually happens is kind of confusing, but all of the endings have that particular issue)


That's one of the major plotholes: no matter the ending, everybody dies. Why? The mass relays are destroyed. The galactic fleet you assembled are now all stuck in earth's orbit! They will never reach home using the conventional FTL drive cores (way too slow), so they will surely end up killing each other in and around the Sol system.

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RE[2]: My take on Bioware
by cfgr on Thu 22nd Mar 2012 13:19 in reply to "RE: My take on Bioware"
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2009-07-18

Sure an unhappy ending is fine, but make it a choice just like in the second game. If you want to go badass, you can. If you want to go pope-style, you can. In the 3rd game however, it's the same ending no matter what you do. That was one of the things I liked most about ME2. Your decisions mattered and you could work towards the ending you wanted.

Mind you, that doesn't imply that the pure paragon path is the road to a happy victory. It would be nice to see some renegade options leading toward success while paragon would be too weak and ineffective in the same situations (and vice versa).

There are plenty of good ideas with interesting plotlines but I think Bioware had to make it to the deadline and rushed the ending through giving a less than satisfactory result. It certainly ruined the replay value for me, knowing that no matter what quests you did, how much effort you put into it and what decisions you take, everyone dies the same way anyway.


Edit. Woops, replied to the parent post instead, sorry ;)

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RE[3]: My take on Bioware
by cyrilleberger on Fri 23rd Mar 2012 11:20 in reply to "RE[2]: My take on Bioware"
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2006-02-01

Sure an unhappy ending is fine

I bet most people are just upset of not seeing Shepard and Liara surrounded by lot of little blue children ;)

but make it a choice just like in the second game. If you want to go badass, you can. If you want to go pope-style, you can. In the 3rd game however, it's the same ending no matter what you do.


The same ? Really ? Tell that to the Geth, since they either die or survive. You have basically three choices: kill the synthetics, control them or merge the synthetics with the organics. How exactly is that the same choice ? And how exactly isn't it more choices than ME2 ? Where you only had two choices: destroy or not destroy the base.

And all of those three endings have different variations depending on your actions in ME3, depending on how much time you invest in the game (like ME2, I guess, where your crew would only survive if you do all the side quests).

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