Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 19th Mar 2012 22:48 UTC
Windows "Microsoft will finish work on Windows 8 this summer, setting the stage for personal computers and tablets with the operating system to go on sale around October, according to people with knowledge of the schedule." Judging by the community preview, they've got a lot of work yet to do, like, you know, actually making it usable on non-touch devices. What I'm tying to say - pretty aggressive release schedule.
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RE[3]: Comment by ScannerAssy
by lucas_maximus on Thu 22nd Mar 2012 11:16 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by ScannerAssy"
lucas_maximus
Member since:
2009-08-18

This is what I find funny.

People go out of their way to bitch and moan about Windows and then buy a PC with it on ... and then complain about it.

If they actually cared that much, they would go out of their way to buy a PC without Windows. I can only assume that they really don't care that much.

Usually they make various excuses, like they don't have a credit card or some such excuses.

I live in Spain and It is almost impossible to get a uk-GB keyboard and some other specialist stuff. I get a chap in Gibraltar to order me the kit in from the UK. I don't need a credit card ... I just had to talk to the shop owner and I pay a little above the going rate to make it worthwhile.

It was a little extra work than just putting up with what I could get from conveniece.But if you are the minority you should be supporting those businesses that cater for your niche.

Just to clarify, I still build my own systems ... and I usually get my laptop with no OS from a guy that sells refurb business laptops (Dell Latitudes and/or Thinkpads) and I buy two copies of Windows. I use Windows Professional Editions.

Edited 2012-03-22 11:25 UTC

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RE[4]: Comment by ScannerAssy
by bassbeast on Fri 23rd Mar 2012 10:29 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by ScannerAssy"
bassbeast Member since:
2007-11-11

So you are saying people should buy used junk (Sorry dude but I sell PCs too and laptops are the LAST thing you should want to recycle, right up there with underwear IMHO for the amount of nasty funk you find in those things) rather than actually get something with a warranty? i'm sorry but that is simply unacceptable.

I build machines all day but I too have to buy OEM when it comes to laptops and you HAVE to take what you can get and unless you are willing to pay frankly insane prices for "workstations" which is a codeword for 'We're gonna charge you out the ying yang for something that isn't any better built than your average inspiron' you really don't get a choice. I wanted a 12 inch netbook as that was the form factor I needed. my choices were Win 7 HP or...yeah that was it, Win 7 HP. The 15 inchers you can get Pro, the 10 inchers come with Starter, but 12 inch was Win 7 HP.

That is why i'm telling my customers to buy now and batten down the hatches, we are all gonna just bypass Win 8 entirely. I've bought some extra copies of Win 7, next week i'll finish the quad for the youngest boy and the hexacore for the oldest and i just finished my own hexacore and bought a netbook ALL so I could completely avoid Win 8. I have a feeling I'm gonna be spending a good year and a half stripping that thing off of PCs, just as I spent a year and a half stripping Vista off machines before. I have a spindle at the shop with OEM Vista discs because nobody wanted them, I have a feeling after Oct its gonna have a friend.

But in the end most folks simply have to take what they can get, although most don't try to get their money back for the OS but instead bring it to someone like me. While I only hope the OEMs offer downgrade rights like with Vista i so do NOT want to spend another year calling OEMs getting keys, in fact i think this time i'll charge a 30% premium if i have to call an OEM as I'm not dealing with "Peggy" anymore dang it!

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lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

So you are saying people should buy used junk (Sorry dude but I sell PCs too and laptops are the LAST thing you should want to recycle, right up there with underwear IMHO for the amount of nasty funk you find in those things) rather than actually get something with a warranty? i'm sorry but that is simply unacceptable.


When did I say that?

It was a little extra work than just putting up with what I could get from conveniece.

But if you are the minority you should be supporting those businesses that cater for your niche.


For those that really care want a Linux machine, they should buy from businesses that cater for their niche.

iXsystems for example used to produce Workstations with FreeBSD installed on them. System 76 produces machines that support linux and have it installed out of the box.

If you don't support the businesses that cater for your niche and instead, buy a machine from Dell you are doing yourself a dis-service. Because you are basically telling Dell "I will buy this even though it isn't really want I wanted".

So yeah, you someone can be a Windows Refund Hero, but you are actually hurting businesses that actually cater for what you actually want to buy because you couldn't be arsed to go out of your way a little bit.

Edited 2012-03-23 13:24 UTC

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