Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 23rd Mar 2012 19:04 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless "Reading Steve Jobs by Walter Isaacson, it can be argued the creative catalyst for the iPad was not Jobs himself, nor Apple design wizard Jony Ive, but instead some Microsoft engineer who talked too much at parties. At least that's how Steve Jobs told it from 2002. 'But he was doing the device all wrong. It had a stylus. As soon as you have a stylus, you're dead. This dinner was like the tenth time he talked to me about it, and I was so sick of it that I came home and said, "Fuck it, let's show him what a tablet can really be".' Apocryphal dinner story or not, Apple did indeed show Microsoft how tablets are done, and attempted to bury the stylus in doing so. However, a decade later and just after the launch of the new iPad, it turns out the stylus isn't dead at all. In fact, it's getting better."
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Notes
by ndrw on Sat 24th Mar 2012 04:25 UTC
ndrw
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2009-06-30

Controlling GUI with fingers is fantastic, much better than using a stylus pretending to be a mouse.

But I still want a stylus for writing. In fact I haven't bought any "pad" device so far because, if I can't take notes on it, it's simply *much* less useful for me. Capacitive stylus won't cut it - it's only slightly better than my chubby fingers. The one presented in the article looks better but isn't well integrated with the device (10s calibration? seriously?), not sure if its lag is small enough, and is way too expensive.

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RE: Notes
by Neolander on Sat 24th Mar 2012 09:02 in reply to "Notes"
Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

Yup, don't think it will be much better than a "pure" capacitive stylus. Especially because since it is an active technology, you will get batteries in your stylus, which will as such either feel quite heavy or have a poor battery life.

Samsung have released an "S-pen" based on wacom tech along with their "Note" products, you may want to take a look at it since it seems to perform quite well : http://androidandme.com/2012/03/games/draw-something-shootout-galax... . Still a lot of lag though, they have to work out driver issues or put better processors in these things I guess. If you are ready to deal with the imprecision issues of capacitive touch screens, the "Jot Pro" presented here might be a good second choice.

But you already point out the big issue : device integration. Even when styluses don't outright require explicit app support, neither iOS nor Android do properly support stylus input at the core, and it shows.

Take calibration, as an example. For finger input, it is unnecessary, because fingers are so imprecise already that it doesn't matter. For pen input on a "pure" pen tablet like the Wacom Bamboo, it is still unnecessary, because the stylus detector is located immediately below the stylus. But as soon as you put an LCD screen between the sensitive element and the pen, you will have some visible visual mismatch between where you put your pen and where you draw. An OS which properly supports pen input can correct that, but a "pure" touchscreen OS won't.

EDIT : I'm currently checking out the newest Note stuff from samsung, to see if they have worked out the lag issue. http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/22/samsung-galaxy-note-10-1-preview...

EDIT 2 : Seems to. Might be an interesting product to look at for you...

Edited 2012-03-24 09:32 UTC

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RE[2]: Notes
by Neolander on Sat 24th Mar 2012 09:44 in reply to "RE: Notes"
Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

EDIT : I'm currently checking out the newest Note stuff from samsung, to see if they have worked out the lag issue. http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/22/samsung-galaxy-note-10-1-preview...

EDIT 2 : Seems to. Might be an interesting product to look at for you...

EDIT 3 : Nope, still quite laggy on second look :/

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RE[2]: Notes
by henderson101 on Sun 25th Mar 2012 15:28 in reply to "RE: Notes"
henderson101 Member since:
2006-05-30

The Wacom Bamboo - depends on the model. Mine does both pen input and touch input. When I got mine, admittedly a couple of years ago, they did Pen, Touch and Pen & Touch versions. The touch is capacitive and will detect multiple touches and the pen is the traditional pen input. You can toggle touch ob and off and with the driver installed, it's a lot like a laptop touch pad (MacBook due to multitouch) or similar.

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