Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 25th Mar 2012 19:44 UTC
Legal "Last week a large, profitable company sued a small start-up business for patent infringement. As a non-legal person, I can only guess that this sort of thing must happen fairly often. I would also guess that the large companies, which have the means to hire crackerjack legal teams and drag cases out, must often win. And while I guess I feel bad for the small businesses, I've never really cared before now. Because this time, the stakes are high. This time, it's my daughter's voice on the line. Literally." Infuriating. Maybe these are the kinds of stories we need to get normal people to care enough to force lawmakers to change. Sadly, the big bags of money from Apple, Microsoft, and Oracle are probably far more important to them than this sad story.
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RE: Comment by shmerl
by kragil on Sun 25th Mar 2012 20:52 UTC in reply to "Comment by shmerl"
kragil
Member since:
2006-01-04

Exactly, so the only thing one can realistcally do is to not buy their shit(politics can be bought and therefor don't work). Everybody who complains about software patents and then goes out and buys Iphones, Ipads, Oracle, Windows, Xbox or Office is a hypocrite PERIOD

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RE[2]: Comment by shmerl
by shmerl on Sun 25th Mar 2012 22:21 in reply to "RE: Comment by shmerl"
shmerl Member since:
2010-06-08

Agreed, vote with your wallet.

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RE[2]: Comment by shmerl
by Gullible Jones on Sun 25th Mar 2012 23:10 in reply to "RE: Comment by shmerl"
Gullible Jones Member since:
2006-05-23

Some people depend on drugs that happen to be patented. And like it or not, there are cases where the only drugs that work... are patented.

What do you expect people to do when they're tied into the system like that?

(And if you're just talking software, surely you realize that certain irreplaceable special-purpose software is covered by patents, right? Some people's jobs and/or educations depend on using this "shit.")

There is plenty of room for hypocrisy; but please recognize that being able to "put your money where your mouth is" is, simply put, a privilege of those who have money. (Or good health, or certain job-related skills, etc.)

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RE[3]: Comment by shmerl
by bhtooefr on Mon 26th Mar 2012 01:16 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by shmerl"
bhtooefr Member since:
2009-02-19

Well, there's always blatantly violating the patent, by either following its directions to make whatever it is yourself, or buying from a Chinese company that doesn't care about the patent.

(But, then, you get lead or antifreeze in your knockoff patented medicine...)

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RE[3]: Comment by shmerl
by kragil on Mon 26th Mar 2012 07:14 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by shmerl"
kragil Member since:
2006-01-04

BS. I was talking about software and the number of people who really need their Xbox or Iphone or whatever to survive or make a living is a lot lot smaller than you make it seem. Nearly all people can live without products from patent aggressors MS, Apple or Oracle. The few people in IT that really need them now could switch to alternative in most cases. Those are the facts. Deal with it.

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RE[2]: Comment by shmerl
by Wafflez on Mon 26th Mar 2012 15:21 in reply to "RE: Comment by shmerl"
Wafflez Member since:
2011-06-26

Agree. Got an xBox, three Windows PCs, Windows Phone and I don't give a f--k about software patents. I care only about my comfort while dealing with technology. ^^

All others that are on the same boat and complain - YOU HYPOCRITES!!

Edited 2012-03-26 15:23 UTC

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RE[2]: Comment by shmerl
by danger_nakamura on Tue 27th Mar 2012 17:47 in reply to "RE: Comment by shmerl"
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2011-06-21

Exactly, so the only thing one can realistcally do is to not buy their shit(politics can be bought and therefor don't work). Everybody who complains about software patents and then goes out and buys Iphones, Ipads, Oracle, Windows, Xbox or Office is a hypocrite PERIOD


I agree that this is the honorable thing to do, and that it may have some impact in some cases.

I disagree that it is the ONLY thing to do. Some people say that talk is cheap, but I don't agree. Talk helps to keep issues visible.

Having once observed first hand (on a small scale) a phenomenon play out in real life, I will tell you what can happen if people keep talking about an issue. Maybe someone that would otherwise remain ignorant becomes educated and convinced. And maybe this someone is the nephew of someone important in the industry. And maybe this someone has to hear from his nephew over Thanksgiving dinner that he is being a DICKHEAD and is wrong. And then maybe something will change.

I'll concede that this is a dramatic example, although I did watch it happen in the relatively smaller fishbowl of local politics. The larger point is that dialog is important. It is not merely complaining - even though some people clearly are just complainers. Keeping an issue at the forefront has value, and if its all that someone feels able to do than I say at least they are doing that.

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