Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 29th Mar 2012 10:42 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless Over the years, one thing has been very hard to grasp for some people: the fact that people want smartphones with 4.0"+ screens. These 'some people' seem to believe that because Apple chose a 3.5" display, any display size that isn't 3.5" is wrong. Keep that in mind when you read Samsung's latest little communiqué: the Korean giant has sold (not shipped, sold) more than 5 million Galaxy Notes. Which has a 5.3" screen.
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RE[4]: It is terrible though
by Thom_Holwerda on Thu 29th Mar 2012 20:16 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: It is terrible though"
Thom_Holwerda
Member since:
2005-06-29

Thom claims Apple said things,


You know just as well as I do that I did not mean Apple has actually physically said that - is a reference to the legions of fanboys and the total insistence on 3.5" combined. The crazy phrasing was giving it away.

He even quotes a quote that someone made in refference to IBM and substitutes IBM for Apple.


Oh dear god READ the actual linked article there. The linked article is about how that old quote about IBM can be applied to Apple. Pretty damn obvious. Are you even REMOTELY aware of how the internet works, with links and all?

You can do better than this.

Edited 2012-03-29 20:17 UTC

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RE[5]: It is terrible though
by leos on Thu 29th Mar 2012 22:45 in reply to "RE[4]: It is terrible though"
leos Member since:
2005-09-21

"Thom claims Apple said things,


You know just as well as I do that I did not mean Apple has actually physically said that - is a reference to the legions of fanboys and the total insistence on 3.5" combined. The crazy phrasing was giving it away.
"

You are flat out wrong. You said "Apple hath stated that 3.5" is the optimal display size".

There is no possible interpretation of that sentence that could mean anything other than "Apple, the company, has officially stated that 3.5" is the optimal display size". If you meant to say that "apple fans have said that..." then you wrote it wrong. This isn't up for debate, these are the simple rules of language.

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Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

There is no possible interpretation of that sentence that could mean anything other than "Apple, the company, has officially stated that 3.5" is the optimal display size". If you meant to say that "apple fans have said that..." then you wrote it wrong. This isn't up for debate, these are the simple rules of language.


Not everything is to be interpreted literally - especially not when it's written down in the tone that it is. That's how language works - by using certain words or striking a certain tone, you can invoke different meanings. The fact that just two people - two resident Apple fans, at that - fail to see this is telling, at best.

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RE[6]: It is terrible though
by fatjoe on Fri 30th Mar 2012 15:30 in reply to "RE[5]: It is terrible though"
fatjoe Member since:
2010-01-12

From the iPhone 4 press event:

Question: Is there anything you could have said in the launch keynote to lower expectations?


Steve: [...] And one of the things we’ve learned is that as a leader in the smartphone world now, we need to educate. So what we need was data. And now we’ve got some and we’re sharing it now. You could make a really big smartphone that doesn’t have this problem — some of these guys are making Hummers now — so big you can’t get your hand around it. But no one’s going to buy that. But the press around this, maybe it’s because people thought we were perfect, and they saw somewhere we aren’t, and they jumped on it."


(BTW, Jobs was refering to the new "huge" 4.1" phones)

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RE[5]: It is terrible though
by MOS6510 on Fri 30th Mar 2012 05:52 in reply to "RE[4]: It is terrible though"
MOS6510 Member since:
2011-05-12

So a quote about IBM that may (MAY) be applied to Apple is your only proof to support another Apple rant?

You didn't do any other research, spoke to anyone from Apple, any Apple user, looked up any articles? Or if you did you decided not to mention this and just present a quote you think may (MAY!) also be applied to Apple.

I know how the Internet works. Anyone can call him/herself a journalist, raise assumptions and his/her own view of the world as fact without any proof and say anything they want, while their readers believe it, because like the author it's what they want to believe.

And again you present Apple users as a large horde that dines in the same restaurant and well, basically hangs out all day together, everybody with the same annoying characteristics and harassing innocent non-Apple users that just happen to pass by.

You try, again and again, make it look like a them (evil) and us (good). That's not how it works. There are iPhone users that use PCs, MOST iPhone users don't even have a Mac. There are Mac users that don't have an iPhone. There are Mac/iPhone users that don't have an AppleTV, but another media device. There are Apple users that don't like iTunes, there are PC users that do. The real fanatical Apple user is a minority of a minority. And even they don't care about the screen size!

And not all Android users are fighting for freedom by modding their phone all day, most don't give a damn about it (they don't even know it can be done, or even what it is, or would even care). And why do people buy the Note? Because they have bad eyes and fatty fingers. Nothing wrong with that.

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Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

And again you present Apple users as a large horde


What? I didn't mention Apple users once. I talked about some tech bloggers. How you got from that to all Apple users is... Fascinating.

Mind you, I'm an avid Apple user. So are my parents and many of my friends. Why would I insult them?

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RE[6]: It is terrible though
by polaris20 on Fri 30th Mar 2012 19:33 in reply to "RE[5]: It is terrible though"
polaris20 Member since:
2005-07-06

So a quote about IBM that may (MAY) be applied to Apple is your only proof to support another Apple rant?

You didn't do any other research, spoke to anyone from Apple, any Apple user, looked up any articles? Or if you did you decided not to mention this and just present a quote you think may (MAY!) also be applied to Apple.

I know how the Internet works. Anyone can call him/herself a journalist, raise assumptions and his/her own view of the world as fact without any proof and say anything they want, while their readers believe it, because like the author it's what they want to believe.

And again you present Apple users as a large horde that dines in the same restaurant and well, basically hangs out all day together, everybody with the same annoying characteristics and harassing innocent non-Apple users that just happen to pass by.

You try, again and again, make it look like a them (evil) and us (good). That's not how it works. There are iPhone users that use PCs, MOST iPhone users don't even have a Mac. There are Mac users that don't have an iPhone. There are Mac/iPhone users that don't have an AppleTV, but another media device. There are Apple users that don't like iTunes, there are PC users that do. The real fanatical Apple user is a minority of a minority. And even they don't care about the screen size!

And not all Android users are fighting for freedom by modding their phone all day, most don't give a damn about it (they don't even know it can be done, or even what it is, or would even care). And why do people buy the Note? Because they have bad eyes and fatty fingers. Nothing wrong with that.


Best post in this thread; I'd mod you up if I hadn't already posted. I'm not sure who's more hated on the Internet by sites like this; Apple or their users. The problem with the latter is like you stated, not all of us are the wild-eyed nutjobs that Thom and others attempt to paint us as. Sure, I've got a Mac. I've got an iPhone. I've even got an iPad.

But I've also got a nice quad core Ubuntu box, and an ESX server that's got a bunch of FOSS OSes on there, including a Debian server running Plex that serves up movies to my two Roku boxes. I've even got a Windows machine running as a DVR/Media PC.

The sooner people stop thinking of OSes (be it phones, tablets, or desktops) as a friggin' religion, the better.

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RE[5]: It is terrible though
by chithanh on Sat 31st Mar 2012 13:08 in reply to "RE[4]: It is terrible though"
chithanh Member since:
2006-06-18

"Thom claims Apple said things,


You know just as well as I do that I did not mean Apple has actually physically said that - is a reference to the legions of fanboys and the total insistence on 3.5" combined. The crazy phrasing was giving it away.
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Just change "stated" into "decided" and "Apple's word" into "what comes from Apple". This does not affect the point of the article at all, and will not shut up the fanboys, but it addresses their criticism.

Edited 2012-03-31 13:09 UTC

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