Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 29th Mar 2012 10:42 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless Over the years, one thing has been very hard to grasp for some people: the fact that people want smartphones with 4.0"+ screens. These 'some people' seem to believe that because Apple chose a 3.5" display, any display size that isn't 3.5" is wrong. Keep that in mind when you read Samsung's latest little communiqué: the Korean giant has sold (not shipped, sold) more than 5 million Galaxy Notes. Which has a 5.3" screen.
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RE[5]: It is terrible though
by MOS6510 on Fri 30th Mar 2012 05:52 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: It is terrible though"
MOS6510
Member since:
2011-05-12

So a quote about IBM that may (MAY) be applied to Apple is your only proof to support another Apple rant?

You didn't do any other research, spoke to anyone from Apple, any Apple user, looked up any articles? Or if you did you decided not to mention this and just present a quote you think may (MAY!) also be applied to Apple.

I know how the Internet works. Anyone can call him/herself a journalist, raise assumptions and his/her own view of the world as fact without any proof and say anything they want, while their readers believe it, because like the author it's what they want to believe.

And again you present Apple users as a large horde that dines in the same restaurant and well, basically hangs out all day together, everybody with the same annoying characteristics and harassing innocent non-Apple users that just happen to pass by.

You try, again and again, make it look like a them (evil) and us (good). That's not how it works. There are iPhone users that use PCs, MOST iPhone users don't even have a Mac. There are Mac users that don't have an iPhone. There are Mac/iPhone users that don't have an AppleTV, but another media device. There are Apple users that don't like iTunes, there are PC users that do. The real fanatical Apple user is a minority of a minority. And even they don't care about the screen size!

And not all Android users are fighting for freedom by modding their phone all day, most don't give a damn about it (they don't even know it can be done, or even what it is, or would even care). And why do people buy the Note? Because they have bad eyes and fatty fingers. Nothing wrong with that.

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Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

And again you present Apple users as a large horde


What? I didn't mention Apple users once. I talked about some tech bloggers. How you got from that to all Apple users is... Fascinating.

Mind you, I'm an avid Apple user. So are my parents and many of my friends. Why would I insult them?

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RE[7]: It is terrible though
by MOS6510 on Fri 30th Mar 2012 06:15 in reply to "RE[6]: It is terrible though"
MOS6510 Member since:
2011-05-12

In the article you didn't, but in your comment, explaining your article, you said:

"You know just as well as I do that I did not mean Apple has actually physically said that - is a reference to the legions of fanboys and the total insistence on 3.5" combined. "

As I read it you admit Apple didn't made any such claims, but it's the Apple users, like your friends 'n' family, that do.

My guess is your friends 'n' family do not stare at their iPhones all day wondering what life would be if the screen was bigger, nor do they hassle users of phone with bigger screens.

And in my reply I tried to explain there aren't hordes of Apple users wandering the streets all wearing turtle necks.

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RE[7]: It is terrible though
by leos on Fri 30th Mar 2012 06:31 in reply to "RE[6]: It is terrible though"
leos Member since:
2005-09-21

What? I didn't mention Apple users once. I talked about some tech bloggers.


Yay, it was a painful process, but finally we get there. So your beef is with some tech bloggers that are enamoured with all things Apple. So write it that way. You don't like those guys, that much is clear, but your article was written like this is somehow the position of Apple, or a large number of their users.. It isn't..

By the way, if you actually read the articles you linked to, like this one (http://daringfireball.net/2012/01/why_are_android_phones_bigger) , it's not even that out there.. Larger screens because of DPI settings in Android which is true, and larger phones because of LTE chips which Anandtech claims need more space than could be found in a 3.5" phone. Doesn't sound like the ravings of a fanboy. And look what else they wrote: "I know there are people who really do prefer these bigger 4.5-inch displays"
Wow. It's like they really do understand that people like different things. It's not like it's a war at all, and Thom is the only one trying to stir up trouble.. Funny that.

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RE[6]: It is terrible though
by polaris20 on Fri 30th Mar 2012 19:33 in reply to "RE[5]: It is terrible though"
polaris20 Member since:
2005-07-06

So a quote about IBM that may (MAY) be applied to Apple is your only proof to support another Apple rant?

You didn't do any other research, spoke to anyone from Apple, any Apple user, looked up any articles? Or if you did you decided not to mention this and just present a quote you think may (MAY!) also be applied to Apple.

I know how the Internet works. Anyone can call him/herself a journalist, raise assumptions and his/her own view of the world as fact without any proof and say anything they want, while their readers believe it, because like the author it's what they want to believe.

And again you present Apple users as a large horde that dines in the same restaurant and well, basically hangs out all day together, everybody with the same annoying characteristics and harassing innocent non-Apple users that just happen to pass by.

You try, again and again, make it look like a them (evil) and us (good). That's not how it works. There are iPhone users that use PCs, MOST iPhone users don't even have a Mac. There are Mac users that don't have an iPhone. There are Mac/iPhone users that don't have an AppleTV, but another media device. There are Apple users that don't like iTunes, there are PC users that do. The real fanatical Apple user is a minority of a minority. And even they don't care about the screen size!

And not all Android users are fighting for freedom by modding their phone all day, most don't give a damn about it (they don't even know it can be done, or even what it is, or would even care). And why do people buy the Note? Because they have bad eyes and fatty fingers. Nothing wrong with that.


Best post in this thread; I'd mod you up if I hadn't already posted. I'm not sure who's more hated on the Internet by sites like this; Apple or their users. The problem with the latter is like you stated, not all of us are the wild-eyed nutjobs that Thom and others attempt to paint us as. Sure, I've got a Mac. I've got an iPhone. I've even got an iPad.

But I've also got a nice quad core Ubuntu box, and an ESX server that's got a bunch of FOSS OSes on there, including a Debian server running Plex that serves up movies to my two Roku boxes. I've even got a Windows machine running as a DVR/Media PC.

The sooner people stop thinking of OSes (be it phones, tablets, or desktops) as a friggin' religion, the better.

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