Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 30th Mar 2012 22:16 UTC, submitted by fran
Gnome "GNOME 3.4 introduces a range of new features. A new document search facility allows quick access to content stored both on your device and online. Smooth scrolling means that moving through content is slick and graceful. New application menus, which are located on the top bar, provide a useful way to access application options and actions." And a lot more.
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clue?
by pooo on Sat 31st Mar 2012 03:03 UTC
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2006-04-22

At what point to gnome developers and designer realize they need to radically rethink their direction?

I mean they've lost, what, 99% of their userbase in a year?? (no idea but at least 90%). How does this not throw them into a panic and total firefighting mode?

So far we've heard nothing and they appear to be staying the course! How is that possible? A new way to quickly find documents and smooth scrolling???? That is what they are working on while their world burns??? WTF? That is just mind boggling.

At least before they were largely just copying windows/mac ui elements which kept them from screwing up too badly. Going off into the weeds unchained them from mediocrity but also allowed them to fall on their faces.

Edited 2012-03-31 03:05 UTC

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RE: clue?
by Soulbender on Sat 31st Mar 2012 04:08 in reply to "clue?"
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2005-08-18

I mean they've lost, what, 99% of their userbase in a year?? (no idea but at least 90%).


What are your basis for these numbers? Just because you made a number up doesn't make it a fact.

How does this not throw them into a panic and total firefighting mode?


I would guess because they haven't lost nearly as many users as you think.

(Note, I don't use gnome3)

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RE[2]: clue?
by pooo on Sat 31st Mar 2012 05:58 in reply to "RE: clue?"
pooo Member since:
2006-04-22

Where do you make up your numbers from? I was pretty clear my estimate was a guess.

How many end users do you estimate they've lost?

50%? 40%?

Anything about 25% should make them rethink which they clearly are not doing.

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RE[2]: clue?
by Rehdon on Sat 31st Mar 2012 08:01 in reply to "RE: clue?"
Rehdon Member since:
2005-07-06

All the Gnome 2.x using people I know, me included, have jumped ship: sadly some of them have gone back to Windows, nobody is using Unity either.

So, as far my little anecdotical evidence goes, it's more 100% than 80% or 90%. Of course it is nearly impossible to have more precise figures, and in all fairness there are people who seem very happy with Gnome Shell / Unity. But I remember the Gnome 1.x > 2.x controversy and this looks much more serious both in numbers and wrt the issues at stake (it's not simply a matter of lost features and/or regressions, it's the new UI paradigm that has driven many people away).

Today I still follow Gnome development as that's the foundation of Cinnamon, but that's it.

Rehdon

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RE: clue?
by nej_simon on Sat 31st Mar 2012 11:32 in reply to "clue?"
nej_simon Member since:
2011-02-11

At what point to gnome developers and designer realize they need to radically rethink their direction?

I mean they've lost, what, 99% of their userbase in a year?? (no idea but at least 90%). How does this not throw them into a panic and total firefighting mode?


ORLY?

Last time I checked the three most popular distros on distrowatch all use gnome 3 as their main DE. Fedora has a vanilla gnome 3 + gnome-shell, Mint has gnome 3 + gnome-shell with some customizations and Ubuntu has gnome 3 + their own unity shell with gnome-shell as an alternative. Oh, and the fallback desktop that looks and works like gnome 2 is also available on these distros if you like that better (in fact I'm using it on Ubuntu now).

It surely doesn't look like gnome lost 90-99% of their users...

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RE[2]: clue?
by pooo on Sat 31st Mar 2012 15:10 in reply to "RE: clue?"
pooo Member since:
2006-04-22

You are *really* stretching the facts by claiming that ubuntu and mint use gnome3 as their default DE. The distinction your are drawing between gnome3 and gnome-shell is misleading.

Do you mean gtk3? All use gtk3 which is not the same thing at all. Mint uses a fork for gnome3. Only Fedora is using stock gnome3 which is what we're all complaining about here.

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