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Linux "Over a thousand developers contribute code to any given Linux kernel release. It's a process that works well from a technical perspective, but it's also one that has its fair share of shortcomings. In a panel at the Linux Foundation Collaboration summit this week, top Linux kernel developers detailed their common pet peeves about the Linux development model. It's a model that is not for the feint of heart ."
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by sarahannalien on Fri 6th Apr 2012 00:14 UTC
sarahannalien
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2009-05-07

Linux founder Linus Torvalds this week wrote in posting that, "publicly making fun of people is half the fun of open source programming." He also noted that, "the real reason to eschew programming in closed environments is that you can't embarrass people in public."

This is actually one of the biggest reasons I've never made any effort to contribute to an
open source community. I'd like to, am probably qualified to do so, and would enjoy doing so, but am unwilling to endure the requisite abuse.

Now to be fair, not every open source community is like that... but I've seen it often enough over the last 20 years that I sometimes wish I'd chosen a career outside of computing.

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by tylerdurden on Fri 6th Apr 2012 01:40 in reply to "Sigh"
tylerdurden Member since:
2009-03-17

Thickness of skin and depth of skills/ability are usually correlated...

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by jburnett on Fri 6th Apr 2012 04:40 in reply to "RE: Sigh"
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2012-03-29

No kidding. The more I learn about programming, and life for that matter, the more I realize I suck at it. The best part of open source is that I can see that I definitely suck at it less than some people... and more than a whole lot more.

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by BluenoseJake on Fri 6th Apr 2012 11:30 in reply to "RE: Sigh"
BluenoseJake Member since:
2005-08-11

Inversely, I find. The better at something somebody is, the less likely they can take any criticism.

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by lucas_maximus on Fri 6th Apr 2012 18:12 in reply to "RE: Sigh"
lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

Thickness of skin and depth of skills/ability are usually correlated...


Utter bullshit.

It totally dependant on somebodies personality.

Muhammed Ali slagged Joe Frasier off, if you watch the documentary about the fight ... Joe pretty much was fighting half the fight almost blind while going toe to toe with Ali.

Valentino Rossi and Arnold Schwarzenegger (BodyBuilding careed) used to try to humiliate their competitors so they were wound up and couldn't think straight when competing.

Max Biaggi was a very good MotoGP rider and was every bit good as Rossi, however if someone gets under your skin you tend not to think right and Rossi knew this.

While sports is about competing, open source is about co-operation ... pissing people off has been proven pretty much everytime to be counter that goal.

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by galvanash on Fri 6th Apr 2012 05:13 in reply to "Sigh"
galvanash Member since:
2006-01-25

Just an observation... I hang on out boards that Linus frequents - he is quite a character and one should wear their flame suite before discussing a topic with him.

But to be honest, I don't find he "makes fun of people" in the traditional sense of ostracizing them. He doesn't at all put people into groups or otherwise treat them like they don't belong. He is quite friendly actually. But he will rip into you if he strongly disagrees with you on something. I find he does this equally with newbies he has never spoken to before as well as developers whose name you would probably recognize.

Just saying he is an equal opportunity offender. I personally don't find it all that off-putting, it's more like an invitation to get the satisfaction of proving him wrong on something, although frankly I find I agree with him almost all the time. I think he can come across as smug and/or hostile sometimes - but imo all it boils down to is he likes arguments...

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by ideasman42 on Sun 8th Apr 2012 14:27 in reply to "Sigh"
ideasman42 Member since:
2007-07-20

Just don't take it so personally - you can learn a heck of a lot from peoples comments on your code (even if its a bit embarrassing).

Also, some communities are harsher then others - I wouldnt generalize on linux as being typical for FLOSS dev communities.

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