Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 7th Apr 2012 23:26 UTC
Mac OS X We don't normally report on security issues, especially not when they occur on Mac OS X. So far, the security issues on the Mac can barely be labelled as such, and really don't deserve a lot of attention. Now, however, it would appear we're looking at the first successful widespread malware infection on Mac OS X. Not a bad track record for an eleven year old operating system, by the way.
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Comment by marcp
by marcp on Sun 8th Apr 2012 08:15 UTC
marcp
Member since:
2007-11-23

As usual - people are drawing conclusions about everything from a single event.
This infection looks serious, but the truth is that Java is the one to be blamed [or Apple as a maintainer].
But - to be honest - Java was not written by Apple. It's not their faulty, bad code.
In other ways: you [I'm talking to you, young man] have no reasons to bash Apple in this case for its code.
All we know is that Apple acts like a moron releasing the patch so long aftern an actual disclosure, but they might have had a reason for that, which we - obviously - don't know.

So stay calm and drop your weapons. There's no real reason to get excited.

Might I also say Java problem corresponds to most platform containing Java ...

Now, I am no way an Apple or Microsoft "fan". I avoid walled gardens. I usually use GNU/Linux, *BSDs and other stuff.

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RE: Comment by marcp
by Alfman on Sun 8th Apr 2012 08:50 in reply to "Comment by marcp"
Alfman Member since:
2011-01-28

marcp,

As far as I know apple's own code is pretty good but the reason they particularly deserve criticism is because they continually advertise that security is a non-issue on the mac. They even continued their misleading ads after security researchers exploited mac vulnerabilities twice at pwn 2 own contests. These were real zero-day exploits that happened to be in the "right" hands.

http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-over-macbook-air-gets-...

Security vulnerabilities happen to the best of us, it's just a shame that companies are too arrogant to admit it.

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RE[2]: Comment by marcp
by jbauer on Sun 8th Apr 2012 08:56 in reply to "RE: Comment by marcp"
jbauer Member since:
2005-07-06

marcp,

As far as I know apple's own code is pretty good but the reason they particularly deserve criticism is because they continually advertise that security is a non-issue on the mac. They even continued their misleading ads after security researchers exploited mac vulnerabilities twice at pwn 2 own contests. These were real zero-day exploits that happened to be in the "right" hands.

http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/pwn-2-own-over-macbook-air-gets-...

Security vulnerabilities happen to the best of us, it's just a shame that companies are too arrogant to admit it.


And they will continue the denial until (if) the problem becomes too blatant to deny it anymore. It helps them sell Macs, you know. And the buyers, they want to believe they don't have to worry about security issues anymore.

Edited 2012-04-08 08:58 UTC

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RE[2]: Comment by marcp
by marcp on Sun 8th Apr 2012 08:57 in reply to "RE: Comment by marcp"
marcp Member since:
2007-11-23

Well, of course, you're right. I just think we should not believe in anything they say [unless it's proven to be right]. We should - instead - take it with grain of salt.
Just as we don't believe in ads, commercials, I don't think we should take such things seriously.

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