Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 12th Apr 2012 08:59 UTC
Internet & Networking I would honestly serve at the altar of the person that did this. Keep the debugging information, but for the love of god, make your email client do something pretty and useful with it.
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tupp
Member since:
2006-11-12

It is quite clear from the screenshot of the first, "machine" response that some mactard tried to send a 44.6MB email.

It states twice that the email was too big, and it gives the exact size of the rejected email followed by the exact email size limit.

People, email is not the way to exchange huge files, for many reasons, not the least of which is that one often does not know what kind of burden a huge file will put on the email recipient.

Furthermore, let's not add to the bandwidth strain by putting fancy graphics into automated responses.

Edited 2012-04-12 10:00 UTC

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Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Furthermore, let's not add to the bandwidth strain by putting fancy graphics into automated responses.


This isn't part of the email - the email client parses the error bounce email and turns it into this.

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daedalus Member since:
2011-01-14

Indeed, it can't be all that hard to do a search of a bounced-back email like that for keywords which trigger a response template like the one shown. Especially Apple, as the kings of polish and facade, I would have thought would sort that out.

I know different mail servers will respond differently, but they'll generally follow the same patterns. It's able to do it with networking protocols like Samba (which also differs in its response from server to server) so why not with mail?

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tupp Member since:
2006-11-12

This isn't part of the email - the email client parses the error bounce email and turns it into this.

Well that's certainly better for the Internet.

However, it would be more advantageous if people would merely know better than to send such a huge email -- we still have the bandwidth wasted with the original outgoing email, plus the size of the bounce back.

And the world would be much improved in general if people would must use their brains more -- it won't hurt to much to try to read and understand the horrible "machine" response.

Instead of "Think Different," a wiser slogan is "Just... Think."

Edited 2012-04-12 10:15 UTC

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Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

"message size X exceeds size limit Y" is one of the more easier bounce message to understand, really.
Unfortunately there's no standard way to deliver useful bounce information to the end-client since the format of the bounce message is not standardized anywhere. This means that you end up getting free-form text bounce messages of various degree of usability. Some servers, notably qmail, even cuts the bounce short. It's pretty darn hard to parse this reliably on the client so no, machines can't easily read this.

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