Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 13th Apr 2012 09:40 UTC
Legal "Oracle's case against Google has evolved primarily into a copyright infringement suit over the past several months, and with the full trial scheduled to begin this coming Monday, the court is making an effort to get down to the nuts and bolts of copyright law. The judge issued an order last week requiring that both Google and Oracle provide their respective positions on a fundamental issue in the case: 'Each side shall take a firm yes or no position on whether computer programming languages are copyrightable'." Seems like an easy enough answer to me, especially since Oracle's example doesn't hold up at all - Oracle points to Klingon's custom glyphs to illustrate that a language can fall under copyright, but unlike Klingon, a programming language uses standard glyphs we all use every day. Arguing you can copyright that is borderline psychotic, and opens up a whole can of worms.
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Comment by Soulbender
by Soulbender on Fri 13th Apr 2012 11:34 UTC
Soulbender
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2005-08-18

Oracle points to Klingon's custom glyphs to illustrate that a language can fall under copyright


For real? Klingon?? Their example is a fictional work of art with a disputed copyright? Wouldn't it have been better to point to a constructed language with an upheld copyright?
Yeah, doesn't sound like a great plan to me.

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RE: Comment by Soulbender
by Praxis on Fri 13th Apr 2012 12:39 in reply to "Comment by Soulbender"
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2009-09-17

Thats the problem, I don't think there is a constructed language that is protected by copyright. Languages really seem out of the bounds of copyright. Can you copyright grammar, syntax or vocabulary?

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RE[2]: Comment by Soulbender
by Soulbender on Fri 13th Apr 2012 12:42 in reply to "RE: Comment by Soulbender"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

Hmmm...you are right. It seems they can't. I remembered it differently but there you go.

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RE[2]: Comment by Soulbender
by CapEnt on Fri 13th Apr 2012 15:32 in reply to "RE: Comment by Soulbender"
CapEnt Member since:
2005-12-18

You can't copyright language.

Languages falls in the same realm of mathematical formulas, and indeed, is a mathematical construct itself. Indeed, in a programming language, this is even more obvious, since its nothing more than a high level mathematical notation to describe logical procedures to a turing-like machine, who is nothing more than a form of calculator.

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RE: Comment by Soulbender
by seanc7 on Fri 13th Apr 2012 16:33 in reply to "Comment by Soulbender"
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2012-03-26

Agree wholeheartedly. If you're using a fictional language as a basis of your legal defence, you know Oracle doesn't have a leg to stand on. If they show us an actual, oh I don't know... PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE as a precedent example, then maybe they wouldn't get laughed at.

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