Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 18th Apr 2012 13:54 UTC
Windows If you ever needed any proof it's anything but roses ans sunshine over at Microsoft's Windows Phone division, it's this. The next version of Windows Phone, WP8, will run on the NT kernel, which marks a pretty substantial departure from the current release. This raises the question: will current handsets be upgradeable to WP8? First, Microsoft indicated no. Then they said yes (interview retracted). And now, they're saying no again.
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Foolish
by arpan on Wed 18th Apr 2012 14:12 UTC
arpan
Member since:
2006-07-30

Microsoft is really foolish to not confirm that the next version will run on current phones like the Lumia 900. There's no way I'm spending $600+ on a phone that won't be supported for even a year.

On the other hand, if they are really going to drop support for current phones in Apollo, then they are even more foolish. Spitting on your fan base is not the way to make a failing platform successful.

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RE: Foolish
by No it isnt on Wed 18th Apr 2012 18:16 in reply to "Foolish"
No it isnt Member since:
2005-11-14

Not updating to Windows 8 does not mean dropping support. Windows Vista and XP still get updates, AFAIK.

Edited 2012-04-18 18:16 UTC

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RE[2]: Foolish
by Moredhas on Wed 18th Apr 2012 20:29 in reply to "RE: Foolish"
Moredhas Member since:
2008-04-10

True, but all the cool stuff that may finally make Windows Phone worthwhile will probably only run on Windows Phone 8. Also, phones are a completely different climate to computers. People over the past ten years have grown to expect a certain support period and have a sense of entitlement regarding security updates and the like. Phones being updateable at all is a recent affectation. As recent as two and a half years ago, you could buy a phone and never expect an update, and the "average joe" customer probably wouldn't even notice he's not getting updates. He'd be encouraged to buy a new phone. Take Samsung, for example, they learned very quickly from the consumer backlash over their i7500 Galaxy Icon (their first Android handset) that you can't release an Android phone and never release an update. Prior to this phone, they'd actually re-release the SAME PHONES with a software update, and call them a new model. See the F480 and F480i, or any of a dozen early Omnia models.

Increasingly, when manufacturers put out some new device, they're letting their old ones rot, which effectively motivates upgrades.

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RE[2]: Foolish
by bassbeast on Thu 19th Apr 2012 09:27 in reply to "RE: Foolish"
bassbeast Member since:
2007-11-11

But if an OS updates and nobody is there to hear it, does it make a sound? unlike those other two examples what WinPhone has never had is APPS, and if they stick those that were foolish enough to actually believe in their product with an OS that will only get security updates while all the new devices and marketing and buzz goes to Win 8? Then they might as well not bother as anyone who bought it is basically gonna end up with a really expensive paperweight.

Frankly the ONLY ones I think that are gonna win on this whole deal is the geeks, hopefully when Win 8 comes out (which i predict will be Vista II, but that's another story) then the WinPhone devices will probably end up on places like Woot! at touchpad firesale prices. Hopefully somebody will hack together an Android that will run on them, if not I'd pay say $100 for an unlocked Lumia even if the OS is dead.

But if anyone has any doubts Ballmer is a bad CEO and doesn't understand the market here ya go, a perfect example. Yeah lets shoot Nokia right in the face when they are struggling by making sure nobody will touch winPhone with a 50 foot pole for fear they'll get an expensive paperweight. Hey while you're at it you'll infuriate those that bought your devices so much they'll NEVER buy another WinMobile, what a bright idea! I'm just glad when my dad needed a new smartphone i talked him out of a WinPhone for Android, at least with Droid if the carrier stops supporting it you still have a shot at CynogenMod, anybody who bought one of these is gonna end up with a very expensive paperweight and a serious case of buyer's remorse. what a dumb move MSFT, dumb move.

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RE: Foolish
by helf on Wed 18th Apr 2012 22:13 in reply to "Foolish"
helf Member since:
2005-07-06

People are doing that left and right for Android phones that wont be officially supported the day you buy them... ;)

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v RE[2]: Foolish
by jnemesh on Wed 18th Apr 2012 23:32 in reply to "RE: Foolish"