Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 18th Apr 2012 13:54 UTC
Windows If you ever needed any proof it's anything but roses ans sunshine over at Microsoft's Windows Phone division, it's this. The next version of Windows Phone, WP8, will run on the NT kernel, which marks a pretty substantial departure from the current release. This raises the question: will current handsets be upgradeable to WP8? First, Microsoft indicated no. Then they said yes (interview retracted). And now, they're saying no again.
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RE[2]: 'Plays for sure'
by bassbeast on Thu 19th Apr 2012 09:44 UTC in reply to "RE: 'Plays for sure'"
bassbeast
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2007-11-11

Actually playsforsure was a hit but then Ballmer showed what an incompetent CEO he was by slaughtering a success to push his own iPod ripoff, but before the Zune there were several sites selling monthly subscriptions that were quite popular. The nice thing about PFS was that it worked on everything from that $20 MP3 player you got at the Walgreen's checkout to that $200 PMP and most places were offering anywhere from 5 to 10 downloads to keep and all you could listen to a month for $10.

BTW have you tried switching it to MPC mode? Most of those old players had a setting buried in the options, I still use my 4Gb Sandisk E series in Win 7 and it recognizes and loads just fine. WMP 12 will even auto-transcode to my preferred bitrate for the device without me having to tell it beyond when i initially plugged it in. Works just fine, not a bit of trouble and it was a PFS device too.

As for TFA...sigh, is anyone surprised? What we are seeing is just like the Pepsi guy at Apple, a CEO that doesn't know what he is doing aping those around him and failing horribly and this is from someone who has been on Windows since 3.x. just look at how many DUMB moves the man has made, PFS being killed for Zune, Kin, pushing on the X360 with a billion dollar flaw, Vista, and now WinPhone. Frankly if it weren't for Win 7 the guy would have had nothing but fails on his watch. he's just a bad CEO folks, and stupid moves like this just shows how he doesn't understand his customers. Boy I bet Nokia is really regretting that deal now huh?

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RE[3]: 'Plays for sure'
by Moredhas on Thu 19th Apr 2012 09:52 in reply to "RE[2]: 'Plays for sure'"
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2008-04-10

I honestly haven't touched my old Sandisk media player for years. I use my phone for playing music, these days. Copy and paste the files onto the SD card, and like magic, the Android media player finds them.

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RE[3]: 'Plays for sure'
by bornagainenguin on Thu 19th Apr 2012 15:24 in reply to "RE[2]: 'Plays for sure'"
bornagainenguin Member since:
2005-08-07

bassbeast waxed nostalgic...

Actually playsforsure was a hit but then Ballmer showed what an incompetent CEO he was by slaughtering a success to push his own iPod ripoff, but before the Zune there were several sites selling monthly subscriptions that were quite popular. The nice thing about PFS was that it worked on everything from that $20 MP3 player you got at the Walgreen's checkout to that $200 PMP and most places were offering anywhere from 5 to 10 downloads to keep and all you could listen to a month for $10.


Yeah, I remember all that, and I remember how mind boggling stupid I thought Microsoft was for killing that market and setting back the future of subscription audio for years..... It didn't hurt me though despite having an old Rio MP3 player at the time, because I saw that it was Microsoft involved and knew better than to trust them by then, so I stuck with podcasts and cdex for my music needs.

I wager a lot of people who have had other products of Microsoft's and seen how they treat their customers have come to the same conclusion, that it simply isn't worth taking the chance. Past performance will eventually get you every time, which is why it is always a good idea to treat your customers well.

--bornagainpenguin

PS: can we please get a mobile app (Android and iOS) for the Site? My god, but how the input box fights with me on my tablet!

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RE[4]: 'Plays for sure'
by Neolander on Thu 19th Apr 2012 16:43 in reply to "RE[3]: 'Plays for sure'"
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2010-03-08

PS: can we please get a mobile app (Android and iOS) for the Site? My god, but how the input box fights with me on my tablet!

IMHO, if the website doesn't work with a mobile web browser, then the website needs fixing. I really don't think that hiding problems between effort duplication, like some other websites do, is such a bright idea...

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RE[4]: 'Plays for sure'
by bassbeast on Fri 20th Apr 2012 14:14 in reply to "RE[3]: 'Plays for sure'"
bassbeast Member since:
2007-11-11

I thought at the time just more proof that Ballmer only got the job by virtue of being gates' little buddy and frankly wasn't cut out for the task. When he drove a stake in PFS there were several sites bringing in millions (that MSFT was getting a cut of every quarter) and for those that wanted new music constantly it was the cheapest thing going. Literally you had 10s of 1000s of songs at your fingertips, most had these cool genre playlists that would load you up with an entire device full of new music in the style/s you liked AND you got to keep 10 songs, all for $10?

While I didn't use them personally (I had been buying used CDs since the 80s and ripping them to MP3 so I already have more music than i could ever listen to) I knew several that did and all they did was gush on about how great it was, that PFS took all the work out and made it as simple as "plug in device once a month, hit load, enjoy new tunes" like having a personal commercial free radio station that played only genres you liked hassle free.

But again we shouldn't be surprised, if its one thing Ballmer has taught us its that while a good CEO can take a bad situation and turn it into a positive its also true a terrible CEO can take a golden goose and slaughter it. PFS was a winner, now what do they have? Nothing, Zune flopped just like everyone knew it would and now Amazon and Apple own the market. Just another dumb move from a CEO who has done nothing BUT dumb moves.

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