Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 24th Apr 2012 17:39 UTC
Google Well, this has been a very, very long time in the making. Google has finally unveiled its big Dropbox competitor: Google Drive. You start with 5GB for free, and you can go all the way to 1TB for $50 per month. This is a big deal for many (if you were to use rumouring as a gauge), but all I can think of is this: why on earth would you entrust your files to a company - any company - whose sole interest is extracting money from you, and who, to boot, is subject to crazy American laws?
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Comment by Radio
by Radio on Tue 24th Apr 2012 18:50 UTC
Radio
Member since:
2009-06-20

Otherwise, an excellent alternative would be SpiderOak, the only one to do privacy right: all is encoded on your side.

https://spideroak.com/

And they like open-source: https://spideroak.com/code

Otherwise, I think you get it slightly wrong, Thom: professional paranoids like John Young, the guy who runs http://cryptome.org/, or security experts like Bruce Schneier ( http://www.schneier.com/ ) would tell you that even if the US laws where more lenient, even if Google was doing it fully as a non-profit, in fact even if you could find a safe country where to store your files with an organisation with high moral standards, it doesn't matter: never trust anybody to take care of your own security.

So yeah, you almost made the point by telling people to host their files themselves. But I will gladly use Google Drive, and you should too. They are just a convenient place to put your encrypted sensitive files.

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RE: Comment by Radio
by f0dder on Tue 24th Apr 2012 18:56 in reply to "Comment by Radio"
f0dder Member since:
2009-08-05

+1 for SpiderOak.

They seem to be trustworthy, their blog entries are interesting and give off a sense of honesty... and unless they're lying through their teeth, the zero-knowledge client-side encryption is exactly what you want.

Yes, you have more control on a home server, but how much redundancy does that offer you?

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RE: Comment by Radio
by WorknMan on Wed 25th Apr 2012 00:42 in reply to "Comment by Radio"
WorknMan Member since:
2005-11-13

even if the US laws where more lenient, even if Google was doing it fully as a non-profit, in fact even if you could find a safe country where to store your files with an organisation with high moral standards, it doesn't matter: never trust anybody to take care of your own security.


This. Even if your data is on a server hosted by a company you trust, in a country you trust, there's no guarantee that server isn't going to get hacked. In other words, whether your sensitive data is on your local hard drive or on a server somewhere else, it BETTER be encrypted and/or at least password protected. In that case, it doesn't really matter WHERE you store it.

As for setting up your own storage solution, that's all fine and good, until a fire or tornado comes along and renders your storage solution useless. As for me, there is some data that I absolutely cannot afford to lose, so I want to have at least a backup copy 'off site' somewhere. I would NEVER store my primary copy in the cloud though.

In regard to my data and privacy, I don't think that either Google or the government would be interested in things such as my fitness routines, grocery lists, code snippets, etc. The only thing remotely 'juicy' is my journal, which is password protected. And even if it were decrypted by someone, and they were able to figure out which app they needed to read it, there's not anything in there that's going to get me fired, or in trouble with the law.

Basically, my point is this... if data that you absolutely need to keep secret is not secure enough so you could put it on a server owned by your worst enemy, it's probably not secure enough.

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jabbotts Member since:
2007-09-06


if data that you absolutely need to keep secret is not secure enough so you could put it on a server owned by your worst enemy, it's probably not secure enough


That has to be the quote of the week. +100!

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