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I know osnews isn't a support forum but this is how I would troubleshoot it. Cold boot docked and save output of lsmod. Cold boot undocked and do the same. Compare the lists and the unload any extra modules in the docked list before you suspend (there's a file you can add the modules to in /etc/pm.d iirc).
Here goes, a retorical question: instead of forcing new behaviours on us, would it please be possible that sleep/hibernate issues be fixed ?
On a daily basis I switch my laptop between standalone and docked, between one screen and two screens; and each time I need a full reboot as sleep/hibernate simply hangs. This worked perfectly well on both my windows and mac laptops over the last decade.... but not on my linux laptop (at all).
of course, no doubt some people will tell me to write a patch myself...
I sincerely wish I could.
cynical ? nop, just what I experienced several times now
TomUK
ps: feel free to call me a moron; I just wish I could make better use of my Linux laptop
What hardware and drivers are you using? Are you using proprietary drivers or in-kernel / open source drivers?
If this is a bug in FOSS drivers please file a bug to: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/
Thanks.
What I find sad is they claim Ubuntu is "Linux for humans" aka new users, yet when i pick my netbook, which is one of the more popular lines, which actually started out with Linux? what do i find immediately after the install page but this, the "fixes"
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EeePC/Fixes
Now does ANY of this look even a LITTLE noob friendly? this is one thing I can't stress enough, if you want Linux to succeed then you can't have pages of gobbledygook that a normal bog standard person, NOT a Linux admin or someone with Bash experience, is expected to accomplish by themselves! Either focus on drivers and stability or have a "Help me!" button so that someone that actually have skill and experience can take command and do this instead of expecting Suzy the checkout girl to suddenly become a fricking programmer!
As many complaints as i have with Windows this is ONE thing they get right. my 71 year old dad got impatient and decided to install Win 7 on his new machine all by himself. when i get there what do i find? A perfectly running machine, windows took care of all the drivers, no need to even insert any discs, it even pointed out he didn't have an AV and popped up a page with several free ones and pay ones to choose from. the ONLY thing I had to do was show him how to install Firefox.
It really doesn't matter how much cool stuff you put in if every device has to have a "fixes' page and I'm sorry but the average user won't care what the reason is, that's just an excuse. All they will know is the computer is broken and you expect them to take a dozen levels in geek skillz to get it working. I ran nothing but Linux for 3 years, I still run it in a VM now, but in all honestly this kind of stuff just makes Linux look like a geek server OS. I mean this is supposed to be the EASY OS remember?
This is my number one issue for running Windows 7 on my laptop in work (number two is that the corporate apps are all based around Exchange / Sharepoint but that isn't so big an issue). I move between single/multiple screens and dock/undock and over the years this has never worked seamlessly on Linux (we only ever use Thinkpads). There are a few people in the office who run Linux natively but they tend to leave their laptops permanently docked and don't take them to meetings. The rest of us run Windows natively and run Linux in VMs, otherwise there would be no end of trouble - on a few occasions when someone running Linux natively tried to present using a projector, they couldn't get it to work properly and there was a lot of joking that they'd need to recompile the kernel to get it working 
It was primarily sleep/hibernate issues that drove me back to Windows on my Thinkpad.
After a weekend spent struggling to get Linux working properly, with no solution in sight, it was quicker and easier to install XP to get a fully working system.
A shame, as I genuinely would prefer to be running Linux Mint on it.
After a weekend spent struggling to get Linux working properly, with no solution in sight, it was quicker and easier to install XP to get a fully working system.
A shame, as I genuinely would prefer to be running Linux Mint on it.
Strange, I've never had problems with suspend/hibernate/resume on Linux.
My computers are: ThinkPad T510 and a bunch of desktops with ASUS motherboards (P5P41T-LE, etc).
I suggest you file bug reports to: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/ if you are still struggling with suspend/hibernate problems.
Also, ask/pressure your hardware manufacturers to contribute back fixes as well.
Edited 2012-04-27 16:59 UTC
After a weekend spent struggling to get Linux working properly, with no solution in sight, it was quicker and easier to install XP to get a fully working system.
A shame, as I genuinely would prefer to be running Linux Mint on it.
Hi Dave,
please see my response to TomF below, I would recommend that you upgrade your kernel to the latest 3.3.x as a lot of ACPI patches went to 3.3.x.
Linux 3.3.x also fixed some ACPI issues I had with shutdown/reboot on my ThinkPad laptop, perhaps the latest kernel will fix things for you too.
It's also recommended that you always try the latest kernel version before reporting issues.
If your problem persists with the latest kernel I recommend you take some time and report the issue to: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/
Please try suspend/hibernate with the latest kernel and report things back.
Thanks.
Edited 2012-04-27 23:10 UTC
Oh yes.
sleep/hibernate with Linux is a lottery game. If you are lucky, it works. Sometimes. With some specific distro release and the proper BIOS. Sigh...
To be fair:
I have occasional problems with my trusty old WinXP laptop. And even more with a 2010Q4 Macbook Pro. How Apple manages to screw up with just a handful of models to support is beyond me.





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I hardly dare to post this question as no doubt some people will call me a moron:

Here goes, a retorical question: instead of forcing new behaviours on us, would it please be possible that sleep/hibernate issues be fixed ?
On a daily basis I switch my laptop between standalone and docked, between one screen and two screens; and each time I need a full reboot as sleep/hibernate simply hangs. This worked perfectly well on both my windows and mac laptops over the last decade.... but not on my linux laptop (at all).
of course, no doubt some people will tell me to write a patch myself...
I sincerely wish I could.
cynical ? nop, just what I experienced several times now
TomUK
ps: feel free to call me a moron; I just wish I could make better use of my Linux laptop