Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 27th Apr 2012 22:00 UTC, submitted by koki
BeOS & Derivatives "Ultimately, Haiku represents a different way of viewing your personal computer. If you think that software shouldn't be riddled with bugs and incompatibilities and inefficiencies, if you hate being forced to swap out your hardware and software every few years because 'upgrades' have rendered them obsolete, and if you find that the idea of using an operating system that's fast, responsive, and simple is refreshingly novel and appealing, then maybe, just maybe, Haiku is for you." What fascinates me the most is that Haiku's not working on a tablet version. How delightfully quaint.
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So, let me get this straight
by No it isnt on Fri 27th Apr 2012 22:12 UTC
No it isnt
Member since:
2005-11-14

Haiku isn't riddled with bugs and incompatibilities?

I guess it's time to take a look at it again.

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WorknMan Member since:
2005-11-13

They try to pimp this OS by presenting other OS's as being slow and unstable/'riddled with bugs', which seems like a straw man argument to me. Personally, as a Windows 7 user, I have 0 issues with speed or stability. And it runs fine on a 5yo Athlon 64 dual core CPU, so not like I'm constantly having to upgrade the hardware to keep up. I'm sure Haiku will run faster, but I don't recall ever having had Windows 7 crash, so I doubt it would be more stable. Of course, Windows 7 isn't stable under ALL circumstances, but if you throw some cheap-ass hardware with badly written drivers and all kinds of crapware running at startup, I'm not really sure any OS could handle that kind of madness.

So, what exactly will I be able to do with Haiku that I can't do with Windows? And I mean stuff I might actually want to do. I suppose it's kinda neat if I can play 4 videos at the same time as playing Quake, while having 30 different apps running in the background without the OS stuttering at all, but c'mon... let's talk real-world scenarios here. I bet it would be cool for audio/video production, but unless some industrial strength DAWs and video editors get ported to it, it won't be much use in that regard.

Edited 2012-04-27 22:19 UTC

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izomiac Member since:
2006-07-26

So, what exactly will I be able to do with Haiku that I can't do with Windows?


Nothing. But, I used to prefer the BeOS a few years ago because it could do 95% of what I needed far better than other operating systems. Haiku is approaching that point (my needs changed).

Haiku is much faster, to the point that the sub-second delays on other OSes become infuriating. It's wonderful to hit Enter to launch a word processor and just continue typing since it launched instantly.

The simplicity of the OS is also underrated. Windows and Linux have bizarre behaviors because they are nearly biological in complexity, which increases the potential for problems and reduces one's ability to understand and fix them. Being able to have an actual notion of what your computer is doing turns the computer from the frustrating voodoo box to a simple hand tool. If I hit my thumb with a hammer, I blame myself and alter my actions because I understand what happened. If Windows crashes I get frustrated at it because I usually don't have a clue what went wrong.

I use the best OS for the job. While I could write a shell script in Windows, I'd usually use Linux for that. It's probably possible to get hardware accelerated video playback with my favorite post-processing filters in Linux, but it's much easier in Windows. OTOH, for the simple tasks that Windows, Linux, and Haiku can do, I prefer the latter due to its elegance. Your use differs from mine so YMMV.

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einr Member since:
2012-02-15

It's a better designed operating system, almost entirely free of the MS-DOS and PC-AT legacy plague. I'm sure your Windows 7 installation is fast enough, but if you tried it, you'd be flabbergasted at just how incredibly responsive Haiku is. Whole different league. It boots in around 10 seconds on my four year old Atom-based netbook, everything just pops up as soon as you click on it -- it's really remarkable.

It's a better designed operating system; that doesn't mean it has better applications. This is still alpha-stage software and porting applications from GNU/Linux or Windows or Mac OS is not straightforward.

So the answer is: there's literally nothing right now you can do with Haiku that you can't do with Windows, except marvel at the sheer accomplishment.

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phoehne Member since:
2006-08-26

Personally, as a Windows 7 user, I have 0 issues with speed or stability.


Lucky you. The other billion or so users - not so much.

You wouldn't watch a movie while playing quake (that would be ridiculous) so much as you might move to much more intelligent NPC's, enemies, or maybe much higher fidelity rendering, if you had a significantly more efficient operating system/rendering pipeline. You are constrained by the physical limits of your hardware. The O/S is a tax on that. Like taxes, some of what you pay comes back to you in better services. A certain amount is just lost as waste because the O/S is not efficient.

I'm stunned sometimes by how bad Windows can be. Not all the time, but sometimes. Not just comparing it to BeOS, but other operating systems. With dual booting machines I've sometimes scratched my head in wonder as to why something (like running multiple streams of video back in the NT 4 days) could work so well in one O/S but Windows just kind of screws the pooch. It's not everything, but I think there are some areas where Windows just kind of sucks. And it's not 250ms vs 198ms. It's 5 minutes vs 5 seconds. They say that the 8 kernel has been cleaned up to get its memory footprint down, so hopefully gooder performance in the future.

Of course, there are some things you give up with good design, like long boot times. Like being able to start booting and be able to get up and get a cup of coffee before the system is ready to use. In fact, I sometimes think I could grow the beans, dry them, hump them up from Columbia on a pack mule, toast them, grind them, vacuum pack them, sell them to my Grocery store, go in, buy them back, take them home, brew a pot of coffee.... nope still not done booting.

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