Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 27th Apr 2012 01:00 UTC
Legal "Former Sun CEO Jonathan Schwartz took the stand here today as a witness for the defense, and disputed Oracle's claim that Java APIs were proprietary code from Sun. Google's lawyer, Robert van Nest, asked Schwartz whether, during his tenure at Sun, Java APIs were considered proprietary or protected by Sun. 'No,' Schwartz said in explaining the nature of open software, 'These are open APIs, and we wanted to bring in more people... We wanted to build the biggest tent and invite as many people as possible.'" Whoopsie for Oracle.
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RE[2]: The irony here...
by tanishaj on Sat 28th Apr 2012 04:14 UTC in reply to "RE: The irony here..."
tanishaj
Member since:
2010-12-22

"Given that MS at least somehow formally asserted they won't do that

So did Sun, time changes things, but of courseā€¦

.Net seems a saver choice on free systems now...

Wait for the verdict.
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Actually, Sun did not.

1) They actively pursued Java licensing

2) They insisted on passing the TCK to call it Java

3) You were not allowed to "superset" the language

4) If you did not pass the TCK, they did not provide a patent grant

The kind of suit that Oracle has brought against Google would not have been possIble if Sun had offered the same patent grants and binding promises not to sue that Microsoft has.

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RE[3]: The irony here...
by moondevil on Sat 28th Apr 2012 06:54 in reply to "RE[2]: The irony here..."
moondevil Member since:
2005-07-08

I fear that if Oracle wins, the repercussions will affect more than just Java.

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RE[4]: The irony here...
by tanishaj on Sun 29th Apr 2012 03:10 in reply to "RE[3]: The irony here..."
tanishaj Member since:
2010-12-22

I fear that if Oracle wins, the repercussions will affect more than just Java.


It depends how Oracle wins.

1) The court decides APIs are copyrightable. This would be a disaster but there is a tonne of that precedent says this will not happen (look at the history of UNIX for example)

2) Patents. Terrible but nothing new (plus patents are basically out of the case now)

3) Other license/copyright issues - probably will not have much applicability outside of Java

Personally, I do not expect a very sizable settlement or much interesting precedent to emerge out of this case.

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