Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 29th Apr 2012 12:22 UTC
Apple "Apple, the world's most profitable technology company, doesn't design iPhones here. It doesn't run AppleCare customer service from this city. And it doesn't manufacture MacBooks or iPads anywhere nearby. Yet, with a handful of employees in a small office here in Reno, Apple has done something central to its corporate strategy: it has avoided millions of dollars in taxes in California and 20 other states." Sure, this is all legal for companies to do (and Apple obviously isn't alone) but it does show you how much sense of morality companies have. Answer: none. But hey, it's legal, and the law is never wrong, right?
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RE[3]: Tax is not theft
by Jesuspower on Sun 29th Apr 2012 14:21 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Tax is not theft"
Jesuspower
Member since:
2006-01-28

Have you seen what happens to someone that tries to not pay taxes?
People with guns come and take them away, and if they resist, they'll kill them.
This is fact. This is not a straw man. The US will even still try to collect income tax from you for years after you leave the country. And it's all enforce by people with guns.

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RE[4]: Tax is not theft
by LeeZH on Sun 29th Apr 2012 14:50 in reply to "RE[3]: Tax is not theft"
LeeZH Member since:
2010-10-21

Let me get this straight, in the first two posts, we were arguing about the importance of paying taxes.

In the third post you wrongly accused me of threatening people to pay taxes.

In the fourth post I basically said "Citation Needed", asking for where I threatened people.

Now, not only have you failed to provide the necessary proof that I threatened people, you make a baseless statement that tax dodgers are killed at gun point and try to pass this off as fact.

Please, stop posting now. Learn more about the world - and about debating - and come back once you're done.

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RE[5]: Tax is not theft
by rycamor on Sun 29th Apr 2012 15:01 in reply to "RE[4]: Tax is not theft"
rycamor Member since:
2005-07-18

Lee, you are being toyed with. It's trollish, but your reading comprehension needs work.

Jesuspower is not saying you personally threaten, but that society in general does. This is a form of speech in English, for example when someone says "you just have to laugh sometime", that saying isn't directed at a particular person but at a generic humanity. So he/she is saying that society has chosen a tax system that threatens anyone who doesn't comply*. I think you have to agree that this is a fact, no matter what your opinion on the morality of taxation is.

*Obviously this same society lets high-powered politicians and bureaucrats get away with complete non-compliance to the very rules they vote into place. but we all know that.

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RE[4]: Tax is not theft
by r_a_trip on Sun 29th Apr 2012 17:06 in reply to "RE[3]: Tax is not theft"
r_a_trip Member since:
2005-07-06

Welcome to the real world...

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