Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 29th Apr 2012 12:22 UTC
Apple "Apple, the world's most profitable technology company, doesn't design iPhones here. It doesn't run AppleCare customer service from this city. And it doesn't manufacture MacBooks or iPads anywhere nearby. Yet, with a handful of employees in a small office here in Reno, Apple has done something central to its corporate strategy: it has avoided millions of dollars in taxes in California and 20 other states." Sure, this is all legal for companies to do (and Apple obviously isn't alone) but it does show you how much sense of morality companies have. Answer: none. But hey, it's legal, and the law is never wrong, right?
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RE[4]: Tax is not theft
by LeeZH on Sun 29th Apr 2012 14:50 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Tax is not theft"
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Let me get this straight, in the first two posts, we were arguing about the importance of paying taxes.

In the third post you wrongly accused me of threatening people to pay taxes.

In the fourth post I basically said "Citation Needed", asking for where I threatened people.

Now, not only have you failed to provide the necessary proof that I threatened people, you make a baseless statement that tax dodgers are killed at gun point and try to pass this off as fact.

Please, stop posting now. Learn more about the world - and about debating - and come back once you're done.

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RE[5]: Tax is not theft
by rycamor on Sun 29th Apr 2012 15:01 in reply to "RE[4]: Tax is not theft"
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Lee, you are being toyed with. It's trollish, but your reading comprehension needs work.

Jesuspower is not saying you personally threaten, but that society in general does. This is a form of speech in English, for example when someone says "you just have to laugh sometime", that saying isn't directed at a particular person but at a generic humanity. So he/she is saying that society has chosen a tax system that threatens anyone who doesn't comply*. I think you have to agree that this is a fact, no matter what your opinion on the morality of taxation is.

*Obviously this same society lets high-powered politicians and bureaucrats get away with complete non-compliance to the very rules they vote into place. but we all know that.

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RE[6]: Tax is not theft
by LeeZH on Sun 29th Apr 2012 15:18 in reply to "RE[5]: Tax is not theft"
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Yeah, I suspected he was being trollish, but he should at least learn how to make convincing and good arguments.

Tax dodging may have serious consequences like seizure of property or imprisonment, but him trying to pass off blatant exaggeration as fact is just mind-numbingly silly. (And yes I do agree tax money hasn't been used wisely but I've made a statement about that already)

And, if he's going to be a troll, he should at least be a good one.

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