Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 28th Apr 2012 17:19 UTC
Windows I wish more people who work or have worked for large technology companies were as open, honest, and excited as Steve Wozniak still gets over new technology and gadgets. He recently bought a Nokia Lumia 900 - and he's loving it. So much so, in fact, that he claims it's better than Android and iOS in many respects.
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RE[5]: Comment by Radio
by Radio on Sun 29th Apr 2012 20:19 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by Radio"
Radio
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2009-06-20

Thank you for going from reasonable discourse to a ranting style. You are obviously NOT the target market for WP7/W8 and iOS, so why are you bothering to comment in here when it obviously gets your blood pressure up? We need dissenting view points to stay alive so we can have viable competition to keep things interesting ;)

And my rant was driving the point that WP7 is not competition. Microsoft and Apple are the same thing in a different package. If I don't like Apple's offering or politics, what use is it for me to go to a Microsoft who does the exact same thing? There is no true competition.

If you learned a bit of economics, you may remember that perfect competition happens in a field with a lot of competitors, numerous enough to ensure none of them has enough influence alone on the market, and that any collusion would be hard to set up. As it is, the OS market is an oligopoly - and always will be, for a question of coders always settling en masse for one, or two, at most three, standards. WP7 does not give "choice" by its existence alone. Metro is nice, but it is a gimmick, and is a vain attempt at originality because nothing else is original in WP7.

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RE[6]: Comment by Radio
by tomcat on Tue 1st May 2012 00:27 in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by Radio"
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2006-01-06

And my rant was driving the point that WP7 is not competition. Microsoft and Apple are the same thing in a different package. If I don't like Apple's offering or politics, what use is it for me to go to a Microsoft who does the exact same thing? There is no true competition.


Look, you may not like the fact that modern smartphones are primarily locked-down, but that's a side issue that has little to do with competition. When you have more than one competitor in a market, it forces them to improve their products year after year, rather than sitting on their laurels and pumping out crap. That is unquestionably happening in the smartphone market. Phones are getting better, more powerful, more capable. Try to imagine a world where there was only Apple. I have no doubt that Apple would strive to produce better phones, but the real question is ... how much would they improve? Answer: Maybe not enough -- and perhaps only enough to maximize profitability. That isn't competition. We should be encouraging more competitors to enter the market, not tear them down and wish failure on them.

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RE[7]: Comment by Radio
by Radio on Tue 1st May 2012 15:15 in reply to "RE[6]: Comment by Radio"
Radio Member since:
2009-06-20

When you have more than one competitor in a market, it forces them to improve their products year after year
Nope, not even close. In France, in Switzerland, there are three phone carriers, and prices are high while services are low. With so few players, competition deosn't work and price-fixing can be set, even implicitely. And that is just one easy example. You need more than "more than one" : you need four, five, more non-ridiculously-small players.

Phones are getting better, more powerful, more capable.

And this is absolutely not an argument in favor of Microsoft's WP7 and its tight, restrictive control of the hardware platforms allowed.

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