Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 30th Apr 2012 15:25 UTC
Legal "File-sharing site The Pirate Bay must be blocked by UK internet service providers, the High Court has ruled. The Swedish website hosts links to download mostly-pirated free music and video. Sky, Everything Everywhere, TalkTalk, O2 and Virgin Media must all prevent their users from accessing the site." Because, as we all know, protecting failing and outdated business models is more important than upholding stodgy old and annoying concepts like 'freedom of speech'. Repeat after me: we live in the free world, not China. Maybe if we say it often enough, we'll start believing it.
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RE: The two extremes
by chmeee on Mon 30th Apr 2012 17:06 UTC in reply to "The two extremes"
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And who will determine this "reasonable cost"? Is $10 for a CD reasonable? Or should it be $5? Or is even $1 unreasonable? Now let's talk blu-ray. It's a pretty recent format, and there are patents involved. So what is a reasonable cost for a blu-ray disk? Is the average $30 too much? Oh, some people may not be able to afford $30, so how about $20? Still some people can't afford that either, or aren't willing to pay that, so we must make it $5 for a blu-ray. Now, let's factor in licensing fees for the various patents involved, and what is the profit on that $5 blu-ray? Somewhere below zero I could believe.

Suffice it to say, "reasonable" is completely arbitrary. Some people will be willing to fork over whatever they are charged, some will wait, some will never pay. But if you don't pay whatever requirement, you shouldn't be able to enjoy the content. Simply saying "it needs to be priced more reasonably" is not a valid excuse for _anybody_ to justify theft.

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RE[2]: The two extremes
by Thom_Holwerda on Mon 30th Apr 2012 17:07 in reply to "RE: The two extremes"
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You just ruined your perfectly valid point.

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v RE[3]: The two extremes
by chmeee on Mon 30th Apr 2012 17:17 in reply to "RE[2]: The two extremes"
RE[3]: The two extremes
by chmeee on Mon 30th Apr 2012 18:45 in reply to "RE[2]: The two extremes"
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What would you call it, then, if it's not theft? "Copying without permission"? "Depriving them of profit for your own gain" (Sounds a lot like theft to me)?

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RE[2]: The two extremes
by _xmv on Mon 30th Apr 2012 17:12 in reply to "RE: The two extremes"
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A movie is 1h30.
You may watch about 5-10 a month. If you include tv shows, those are about 3-4 a week (so up to 16 a month).
You'd like to watch all this in 1080p cause, u know, its 2012, 1080p have been around for years.

Price is about $30 for movies and $10 for shows (those are the low prices for recent content i generally find)

10*30 = $300
16*10 = $160

Is $460 reasonable? No. It just isn't. It doesn't even include music.

Then again if that was the only issue! In general you just _cannot_ even buy the said media.

So yeah, there's a problem, unless you're ok with watching year old or more movies, and one or two a month, zero tv show.

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