Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 30th Apr 2012 19:17 UTC, submitted by bowkota
Legal Java creator James Gosling: "Just because Sun didn't have patent suits in our genetic code doesn't mean we didn't feel wronged. While I have differences with Oracle, in this case they are in the right. Google totally slimed Sun. We were all really disturbed, even Jonathan: he just decided to put on a happy face and tried to turn lemons into lemonade, which annoyed a lot of folks at Sun." Ouch. Also, doesn't jive with Schwartz' comments - might be illustrative of how bad things really were at the once great Sun.
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RE: C++ forever
by bnolsen on Mon 30th Apr 2012 21:09 UTC in reply to "C++ forever"
bnolsen
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2006-01-06

I also won't argue about java. But I would have to say that its level of adoption in part brought about its mediocrity.

c++? It's all I use, but no way would I say it's the best language out there. Its amazing how it's stayed relevant for decades and is still modern. And all these new languages that are supposed to be c++ killers...i haven't been impressed.

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RE[2]: C++ forever
by kwan_e on Mon 30th Apr 2012 23:12 in reply to "RE: C++ forever"
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2007-02-18

I also won't argue about java. But I would have to say that its level of adoption in part brought about its mediocrity.


Actually, looking back at what it used to be, it was also pretty crap to begin with. After that it was mostly about patching up oversights.

c++? It's all I use, but no way would I say it's the best language out there. Its amazing how it's stayed relevant for decades and is still modern. And all these new languages that are supposed to be c++ killers...i haven't been impressed.


I don't think even Bjarne Stroustrup would go so far as to say that C++ is the best language, otherwise he would never be involved with efforts to improve the language.

The best thing about C++ is that it wasn't designed with a programming style in mind. You aren't stuck with just one of OO, or functional, or procedural.

If there's one thing I hate about Java is that it encourages the use of inheritance everywhere.

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