Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 30th Apr 2012 19:17 UTC, submitted by bowkota
Legal Java creator James Gosling: "Just because Sun didn't have patent suits in our genetic code doesn't mean we didn't feel wronged. While I have differences with Oracle, in this case they are in the right. Google totally slimed Sun. We were all really disturbed, even Jonathan: he just decided to put on a happy face and tried to turn lemons into lemonade, which annoyed a lot of folks at Sun." Ouch. Also, doesn't jive with Schwartz' comments - might be illustrative of how bad things really were at the once great Sun.
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RE[3]: C++ forever
by kwan_e on Tue 1st May 2012 04:26 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: C++ forever"
kwan_e
Member since:
2007-02-18

Maybe the attraction of Java is that it allows shitty programmers to create job security...uhm..I mean "enterprise-grade applications".


The main problem I find is that Java programmers tend to have an unhealthy obsession with design patterns and frameworks. It's like they haven't even heard the concepts of cohesion and coupling, which is more fundamental to design than showing off knowledge about the Gang of Four book.

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RE[4]: C++ forever
by phoehne on Tue 1st May 2012 12:13 in reply to "RE[3]: C++ forever"
phoehne Member since:
2006-08-26

I don't think that's particular to Java. I would see it in RoR, where you had a dependency on a gem or plugin for some small piece of functionality, which you could write in about 5 minutes. But in order to bring in that gem or plugin you had to bring in other gem

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RE[5]: C++ forever
by kwan_e on Tue 1st May 2012 12:48 in reply to "RE[4]: C++ forever"
kwan_e Member since:
2007-02-18

I don't think that's particular to Java.


You're right, but Java frameworks takes the obsession to whole new heights, in my opinion. All the other latecomers just follow suit because it's the done thing.

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