Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 3rd May 2012 20:22 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless Samsung has just unveiled the Galaxy SIII - 4.8" 720p SuperAMOLED display, quad-core processor, 8.6mm thick body. Despite the larger display, the SIII isn't much larger than the SII, which is pretty impressive. Samsung also shoved a whole bunch of new features into TouchWiz, including a few quite kitschy sound effects. Ice Cream Sandwich, but TouchWizzed. I personally really dislike the move to curved and rounded designs (still waiting for a perfectly straight, sharp-angled slab), and there's no way in heck I'm buying this thing. Available May 29, all throughout Europe. Asia, Africa, and the US will follow later during the summer. Will sell like hotcakes. Update: Really - why are they doing this to ICS? This reminds me of that Southpark episode with Spielberg and Lucas raping Indiana Jones. We're all seeing it, but nobody's doing something about it.
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Comment by kaiwai
by kaiwai on Fri 4th May 2012 01:53 UTC
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2005-07-06

Again this re-enforces the problem I have with Samsung and Android in general - how many months before we suddenly see this device abandoned in terms of receiving either no updates or having to wait almost a year for the next version of Android to appear? (to anyone bringing up the comparison between computers and free operating system upgrades - shut up, please, just shut the hell up, it is a broken analogy that simply doesn't work any more to a person with two brain cells to rub together).

Again we have Touch Wiz which made sense maybe in the early days of Android where consistency was non-existent but ICS pretty much makes the need for such third party enhancements a non-issue - you don't need these third party enhancements to make ICS a usable operating system why keep shipping them? It is the equivalence of a cereal company including laxative with their product and when asked why they don't remove it because it makes people sh-t their pants their only reply is, "well, how else am I able to differentiate my product?" which some here see as a 'legitimate argument' to make.

IMHO the 'thing to watch out for' will be BB10 and Windows Phone 8 - because the only market I see Android gaining in are the el-cheapo carrier branded phones, the $200 Vodafone 'smart phones' being give away on cheap contracts - where as once you get up to $1000 for a phone (which is where the phones are at the unsubsidised price - Telecom NZ sells the HTC One X for $999 incl GST) a good portion of the people I know ask, "well, if I'm going to pay that amount I might as well get an iPhone". The cold hard reality is that Android has been relegated to the cheap end of the market, the people who want an iPhone but settle for the cut price scaled down alternative, the teenager with a part time job wanting a smart phone but wants to only spend a few hundred. Android has branded itself out of the high end market - and quite frankly it'll be interesting to see what happens in the future when you take into account BB10 and Windows Phone 8 thrown into the mix.

Edited 2012-05-04 01:55 UTC

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RE: Comment by kaiwai
by pos3 on Fri 4th May 2012 05:59 in reply to "Comment by kaiwai"
pos3 Member since:
2010-06-25

In India iPhone 4S cost around $900, S2 around $600, Note around $650. Both S2 and Note are selling very well. iPhone 4S is not worth it for that price.
Indians pay full price plus additional tax hence those chepo mobiles sell well here. Not everyone can pay $900 each year for iPhones when you can get similar functionality for less.

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RE[2]: Comment by kaiwai
by kaiwai on Fri 4th May 2012 14:07 in reply to "RE: Comment by kaiwai"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

In India iPhone 4S cost around $900, S2 around $600, Note around $650. Both S2 and Note are selling very well. iPhone 4S is not worth it for that price.

Indians pay full price plus additional tax hence those chepo mobiles sell well here. Not everyone can pay $900 each year for iPhones when you can get similar functionality for less.


In New Zealand the HTC One X sells for $999, the iPhone 4S 32GB sells for $1199. The Galaxy SII sells for $899, when compared to the iPhone 4S 16GB which sells for $1029. Btw, they're full price GST inclusive which either says one of two things - HTC/Samsung are assholes and want to rape 'n pillage the pocket of every New Zealand to the nth degree or they're happy to make a smaller margin when selling in India.

Btw, who said anything about buying a new phone every year - hyperbole anyone? 'can get similar functionality for less' until you expect your handset vendor to provide prompt security and general bug fixes in updates and upgrades then in the case of Samsung and HTC you're shit out of luck. Whilst you spend $600 on your Samsung SII and find that you receive zero updates once you've left the shop here I am with my iPhone 4 pretty damn confident, mind you, that in 3 years I'll be receiving updates and new versions of iOS - so whilst you wasted $600 each year on a phone ($1800 over three years) simply to receive reasonable updates I'm sitting here with the same phone I bought 3 years ago without a care in the world.

Edit: And I'm assuming you have an ounce of common sense to realise that I am talking in NZ$'s since, according to my profile (which I'm sure you read before firing off your post) that I'm from New Zealand.

Edited 2012-05-04 14:09 UTC

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RE: Comment by kaiwai
by BallmerKnowsBest on Fri 4th May 2012 16:31 in reply to "Comment by kaiwai"
BallmerKnowsBest Member since:
2008-06-02

Again this re-enforces the problem I have with Samsung and Android in general...


TL;DR summary:

"Breaking news! Apple fanboy dislikes Android, film at 11."

Oh, and:

The cold hard reality is that Android has been relegated to the cheap end of the market, the people who want an iPhone but settle for the cut price scaled down alternative, the teenager with a part time job wanting a smart phone but wants to only spend a few hundred.


Sorry, but over here in actual reality, people tend to prefer claims that are backed up by something called "evidence" (perhaps you've heard of it). For instance, compare the worldwide browser marketshare:

http://static.arstechnica.net/2012/02/01/worldwide-mobile-2012-01-4...
(Safari: 54.85%, Android browser: 17.78%)

...with the visitor stats from a well known tech news site:

http://static.arstechnica.net/2012/02/01/ars-mobile-2012-01-4f298bf...
(Safari: 31.82%, Android browser: 38.94%)

So, from those stats, it's clear that iProducts have been relegated to the "tech-tards with more money that brains" crowd, while Android has been "relegated" to being used by people who have at least the first clue about technology.

Glad I could help clear that up for you.

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RE[2]: Comment by kaiwai
by kaiwai on Sat 5th May 2012 00:18 in reply to "RE: Comment by kaiwai"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

No, thank you for showing that you ignore this paragraph:

Again this re-enforces the problem I have with Samsung and Android in general - how many months before we suddenly see this device abandoned in terms of receiving either no updates or having to wait almost a year for the next version of Android to appear? (to anyone bringing up the comparison between computers and free operating system upgrades - shut up, please, just shut the hell up, it is a broken analogy that simply doesn't work any more to a person with two brain cells to rub together).

Again we have Touch Wiz which made sense maybe in the early days of Android where consistency was non-existent but ICS pretty much makes the need for such third party enhancements a non-issue - you don't need these third party enhancements to make ICS a usable operating system why keep shipping them? It is the equivalence of a cereal company including laxative with their product and when asked why they don't remove it because it makes people sh-t their pants their only reply is, "well, how else am I able to differentiate my product?" which some here see as a 'legitimate argument' to make.


Because the only assumption I can gather by the lack of addressing what I stated from the above paragraph that is the astute observation I have made about the lacklustre support of which Android vendors provide to their end users over the lifetime of their product is spot on. Whilst you engage in name calling, I raised a perfectly valid issue which you deliberately ignore - if you want to troll please go some where else because quite frankly you're the reason why I'm visiting osnews.com less and less these days.

Edited 2012-05-05 00:25 UTC

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