Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 6th May 2012 10:10 UTC, submitted by bowkota
Google This is absolutely fascinating. Steven Troughton-Smith has gotten his hands on one of the two early Android prototypes - the Google 'Sooner'. The Sooner is the BlackBerry-esque Google phone, which was supposed to be released first, followed by the much more advanced Google Dream (yup, what would eventually become the G1). Lots of high-res screenhots to get a good look at early Android. Update: Fascinating comment.
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RE[3]: A little misleading
by kovacm on Sun 6th May 2012 23:32 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: A little misleading"
kovacm
Member since:
2010-12-16

last what I read from Dianne is that scroll issue will be fixed with better hardware - this approach remind me a little bit to Microsoft but ... who know why this is good ;)

btw I am a fan of god-like optimization ;)

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RE[4]: A little misleading
by Morgan on Sun 6th May 2012 23:38 in reply to "RE[3]: A little misleading"
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

Hey, all I know is switching to CM7 from the official ROM on that Cliq fixed all the UI issues the phone had.

Since we're on the subject, do you have any suggestions for the terrible UI sluggishness and other performance issues on my girlfriend's iPad? Since everyone knows you can't put a different OS build on Apple iDevices, I mean. ;)

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RE[4]: A little misleading
by Neolander on Mon 7th May 2012 08:26 in reply to "RE[3]: A little misleading"
Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

last what I read from Dianne is that scroll issue will be fixed with better hardware - this approach remind me a little bit to Microsoft but ... who know why this is good ;)

btw I am a fan of god-like optimization ;)

Well, you know, that's not exactly an Android-specific problem.

Symbian smartphones used to last a week of light use on a single charge and deal well with 266 MHz CPUs and 256MB of RAM. I believe Blackberries were also able of similar feats at the time. Nowadays, you'll have a hard time seeing something running iOS, WP7 or Android achieving something similar.

For an example from Apple, look at the statements that Siri cannot be ported to pre-4S hardware because the hardware is not powerful enough, or that the iPhone 3G couldn't multitask. I tend to doubt it myself, but if it's true, it says something about optimization at Cupertino, since they used to be able to do voice recognition and multitasking on hardware that was much weaker than that, without the assistance of external web servers for "cloud" processing.

The reason why smartphones OS manufacturers don't care about optimization is not a secret either. People switch phones once every two years at most, and are lured into believing that this is a minor expense through carrier subsidizing. In the end, why bother with making optimized software for disposable hardware that will be "powerful enough" pretty soon anyway ?

Edited 2012-05-07 08:28 UTC

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RE[5]: A little misleading
by Alfman on Tue 8th May 2012 06:32 in reply to "RE[4]: A little misleading"
Alfman Member since:
2011-01-28

Neolander,

"For an example from Apple, look at the statements that Siri cannot be ported to pre-4S hardware because the hardware is not powerful enough, or that the iPhone 3G couldn't multitask."

I have no authority on the subject, nor do I much care, but as I understand it siri not only worked on pre-4S hardware, but was actually available to customers in the store prior to apple buying them out and pulling the app.


Trouble is vendors have no incentive to ever add support for older hardware even if possible. In fact the opposite is usually true, they'd prefer the apps not be compatible on existing hardware even if it is trivial.

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RE[5]: A little misleading
by zima on Sun 13th May 2012 23:58 in reply to "RE[4]: A little misleading"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

Symbian smartphones used to last a week of light use on a single charge and deal well with 266 MHz CPUs and 256MB of RAM

That's technically correct, by you actually overdo the 2nd number ;)

~256 MB is only becoming fairly standard in presently shipping Symbian handsets - they used to deal well with amounts close to an order of magnitude smaller.

I had Nokia E50 for a time, nice little entry-level Symbian (though "big" ones weren't that different). Its CPU speed was quite close to what you say (note though that it was, IIRC, ARM9). But it had ~30 MB of RAM, ~20 of which was free & useful to the user.
And it worked fine.

For an example from Apple, look at the statements that Siri cannot be ported to pre-4S hardware

More than that, they pulled it from being available for older iPhones when 4S premiered.
it says something about [...] Cupertino

Yup.

Edited 2012-05-14 00:18 UTC

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