Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 8th May 2012 17:55 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless This is fun. The number one iOS carrier duking it out with the company behind the world's most popular smartphone operating system. Last month, Google's lead for the Android Open Source Project, Jean-Baptiste Queru, more or less blamed carriers (see comments) for Android's upgrade woes. Yesterday, AT&T's CEO Randall Stephenson retaliated, blaming Google for the delays. And yes, Google already responded to that, too.
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It's clearly the fault of both
by thegman on Tue 8th May 2012 18:58 UTC
thegman
Member since:
2007-01-30

First to Thom, there is nothing "low" about a mobile phone carrier, it's just a collection of people, some rich, some not, doing their jobs and providing a service. The service may be crap, and it may be expensive, but it's not "low", it's just a service, get over it.

Whose fault is it? Clearly both. One sells a phone to a user, and one provides the OS. Neither have shown interest in providing timely OS updates. It's not really in the hardware maker's or carriers' interest, as they would rather you bought a new phone. It's in Google's interest, probably, but not enough to bother doing anything about it.

Don't like it? Don't buy it, it's now "low" or "wrong", it's just incompetent, and we're all that in our own ways.

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Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

Whose fault is it? Clearly both.


I agree wholeheartedly. But:

First to Thom, there is nothing "low" about a mobile phone carrier, it's just a collection of people, some rich, some not, doing their jobs and providing a service. The service may be crap, and it may be expensive, but it's not "low", it's just a service, get over it.


You sound like someone who has never had mobile phone service from one of the Big Four in the U.S. They can, and given the slightest opportunity, will screw over their customers if it means earning a fraction of a penny of added revenue. It's disgusting and despicable, and I find it bewildering that the MVNOs and prepaid carriers -- some even owned by those big players -- can provide much better customer service and lower prices while leasing spectrum from the main carriers. That alone should tell you just how much money they make off of consumers all while enticing them into heavy handed contracts by offering a $500 device for "free".

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thegman Member since:
2007-01-30

You're right, I don't live in the USA, and don't have much experience with those carriers. I just don't buy into this idea of companies being "bad". They are just organizations attempting to maximize profits for their own gain, the point of capitalism. If you don't like the deal, walk away.

I don't deny for a second that these companies do things we don't like, but nobody makes us buy their products and services. If they are a true monopoly, then that's different maybe.

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zima Member since:
2005-07-06

First to Thom, there is nothing "low" about a mobile phone carrier, it's just a collection of people, some rich, some not, doing their jobs

I just don't buy into this idea of companies being "bad". They are just organizations attempting to maximize profits for their own gain, the point of capitalism. [...]
I don't deny for a second that these companies do things we don't like

That's essentially the old functionalism vs. intentionalism debate ...only you seem to take it beyond the former - arguing also that, when structural mechanisms result in something "bad" ...we shouldn't even consider it bad (or low, etc.) at all.

Also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Corporation_(film)

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