Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 8th May 2012 11:56 UTC, submitted by nej_simon
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless Tizen reached 1.0 only recently, but there's already a Tizen Conference going on - and during that conference, Samsung had a relatively barebones reference device running Tizen 1.0. The Handheld Blog has a seven minute video of the device in action, and while I'm very happy big players are investing in all these alternative platforms, I do have to wonder - how viable are they?
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You don't need a reason
by mkools on Wed 9th May 2012 04:53 UTC
mkools
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2005-10-11

I always hate it when people question alternatives. Be happy there are alternatives, they are not popular or probably won't become popular but who cares?

There are people working on ReactOS, is that ever gonna be used for production purposes? And what aobut the 99999 different Linux distributions, why not make one really good one?

And yes Tizen might not become big but it's a nice project to check the possibilities. Other than that, letting your competition know that you are always working on something new keeps them sharp and that's better for us cosumers.

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Close bit not quite it.
by oiaohm on Wed 9th May 2012 15:39 in reply to "You don't need a reason"
oiaohm Member since:
2009-05-30

Tizen work has already left Tizen.

The Wholesale Applications Community (WAC) is in this. Tizen is a test framework to get the glitchs out of WAC platform. This has been picked up by kde.

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RE: You don't need a reason
by kaiwai on Sun 13th May 2012 02:43 in reply to "You don't need a reason"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

I always hate it when people question alternatives. Be happy there are alternatives, they are not popular or probably won't become popular but who cares?

There are people working on ReactOS, is that ever gonna be used for production purposes? And what aobut the 99999 different Linux distributions, why not make one really good one?

And yes Tizen might not become big but it's a nice project to check the possibilities. Other than that, letting your competition know that you are always working on something new keeps them sharp and that's better for us cosumers.


But equally what makes or breaks a platform these days is the ecosystem that developers target for both free (paid for via advertisements) and paid for applications. Both models require economies of scale of the operating system for these said developers to jump on board and make their applications available where as fragmentation undermines this issue. This fragmentation can occur in two ways, the first is version fragmentation (Android is an example with an inconsistent update and upgrade policy resulting developers having to work around version specific bugs) and fragmentation of operating systems where developers simply avoid those alternatives thus entrenching the status quo.

Don't get me wrong, we really do need an alternative given how crappy Android is when it comes to long term support of updates and upgrades plus the horrible slowness of these upgrades and updates getting to consumers but Samsung having 3-4 platforms doesn't help the situation. What Samsung should have done was take their existing Bada and scale it up - I would have also replaced the Linux kernel with something like a BSD so that drivers etc. don't need to be re-invented every time the operating system is upgraded. There should be no need for months of testing if you've already written your drivers already for Linux - it should be just a matter of recompiling the kernel, if you require re-testing of your driver with a new version then obviously something is very broken in how things are designed.

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RE[2]: You don't need a reason
by zima on Tue 15th May 2012 23:18 in reply to "RE: You don't need a reason"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

What Samsung should have done was take their existing Bada and scale it up - I would have also replaced the Linux kernel with something like a BSD so that drivers etc. don't need to be re-invented every time the operating system is upgraded.

No known bada device has the Linux variant - they all run on top of RTOS.
Samsung here "migrates" to Linux - they don't see what you mentioned as that much of a problem, and/or they prefer Linux for other reasons (and it's not like they don't know about BSDs - copyright notices on bada devices show they use some code from FreeBSD, OpenBSD and NetBSD)

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