Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 9th May 2012 02:02 UTC
Mac OS X "Dragging and dropping is a great way to get stuff done on your Mac, but DragonDrop makes it even better. DragonDrop lets you set down what you're dragging, leaving you free to find your destination without worrying about keeping the mouse button held down." Great utility (found via Daring Fireball), but shaking with the mouse is a horrible interaction - it's very intensive and error-prone (Aero Shake, anyone?). I'd love for that little drop container to be permanently visible (oh, and a Windows/Linux version would be awesome, of course).
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RE[2]: Comment by Drumhellar
by Ford Prefect on Wed 9th May 2012 16:38 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by Drumhellar"
Ford Prefect
Member since:
2006-01-16

Welcome to GNU/Linux, where all this stuff is included in the OS.

Note: Included does not mean installed by-default. But we all know the difference between installing a package through your OS package manager for free and paying for third-party software on their website.

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RE[3]: Comment by Drumhellar
by Kochise on Wed 9th May 2012 19:30 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Drumhellar"
Kochise Member since:
2006-03-03

Well, when I meant lego-style OS, when you have to pay (or not) for bricks in order to get a fully usable OS, especially when it already weights several GB just fresh installed, that's what bother me alot. Linux is not a choice per see, especially if you have to master command line to perform what Windows or OS X can do all graphically. The test is simple : put my father or mother front of a computer, ask them to open the web, fetch paint.net, install it and use it to make a simple picture. Synaptic has made a great progress in the area, yet Gimp ain't the best tool for that (especially if you have to sudo to get the packages and dependencies installed successfully)

Strange that Linux can perform all graphically on embedded computers (Android somebody ?) but not really on the desktop (Unity somebody ?) and these "bricks" can leverage the user experience but providing shortcuts or else to the end user, without having to know something about coding a single bash file.

That's where computers and os falls apart : making things simple yet powerful. My mother, fresh newcomer into the fabulous world of computing, eagerly asked me how to send me her best shots of her vacation. Explain her simply how to select her desired photos, copy them into another (sub)folder, batch redim them to 1024x..., split folders to get 10 MB max folders, ZIP each folder, sent each ZIP in an unique mail, etc...

And for these kind of tasks a pay software could exist just to automate a large load of this task list. Because the OPERATING SYSTEM is unable to do so easily :/

Kochise

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RE[4]: Comment by Drumhellar
by panzi on Wed 9th May 2012 20:17 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by Drumhellar"
panzi Member since:
2006-01-22

I don't care. Linux is not meant to be used by "your parents". Its by developers for developers/very advanced users. I and most Linux users never said anyone else should use it. I'm the least unhappy using Linux (Windows and OS X are much to limiting for me).

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RE[4]: Comment by Drumhellar
by Alfman on Wed 9th May 2012 21:44 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by Drumhellar"
Alfman Member since:
2011-01-28

Kochise,

Sometimes there are real advantages to using windows, but these are mostly due to the ubiquity of windows in the marketplace rather than anything to do with the OS being intrinsically easier to use. I'd go as far as to say your first paragraph is borderline trolling: for basic use cases like web browsing, email, writing documents, linux is not actually more difficult to use at all. It just suffers from being an unfamiliar niche platform. Hypothetically if the market shares were reversed, windows would have the same problem.

Edited 2012-05-09 21:55 UTC

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RE[4]: Comment by Drumhellar
by zima on Wed 16th May 2012 23:35 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by Drumhellar"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

That's where computers and os falls apart : making things simple yet powerful. My mother, fresh newcomer into the fabulous world of computing, eagerly asked me how to send me her best shots of her vacation. Explain her simply how to select her desired photos, copy them into another (sub)folder, batch redim them to 1024x..., split folders to get 10 MB max folders, ZIP each folder, sent each ZIP in an unique mail, etc...

And for these kind of tasks a pay software could exist just to automate a large load of this task list. Because the OPERATING SYSTEM is unable to do so easily :/

Your problem in that example is jumping to an entirely wrong approach ...just like a true geek(?) would, you seem to be unable to fathom or recall much more straightforward approaches which are available.

Like holding the picture library in Picasa, and selecting desired pics for its Web Albums (also unlisted or key-in-url private, which you could even easily configure from your end)

Or: Google Talk win32 client, and drag'n'dropping pics into conversation window.

Both free BTW (and not providing all the functionality, but the base on which we can build upon, is the whole point of OS...)

Nearby you also write
it's about which OS performs better for the average user. If Windows and OS X suceeded in this area, it's because these are more user friendly (copy/paste, gui, etc...)

And yet, judging from how people are often lost in them (much more than your example), not that great ...maybe they can also be described as "by devs for devs", largely.

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henderson101 Member since:
2006-05-30

Welcome to GNU/Linux, where all this stuff is included in the OS.


Really?

Note: Included does not mean installed by-default. But we all know the difference between installing a package through your OS package manager for free and paying for third-party software on their website.


So, not included then. Because, this feature could be free if the author had chosen, included for free in the Mac App store and so, by your definition, "part of the OS". Something is not "included in the OS" unless, you know, it is included in the OS. Otherwise, Mono and Java and [random package] is "included in the OS". And is this RPM, or Debian based Linux? And what about distorts that build from source? And does this include all architectures? PowerPC? Arm? Obscure Chinese MIPS clone?

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