Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 9th May 2012 18:16 UTC
Hardware, Embedded Systems Speaking of HP, the company replied to a question if they copied Apple for their latest ultrabook, the Envy Spectre XT. "There are similarities in a way, not due to Apple but due to the way technologies developed. Apple may like to think that they own silver, but they don't. In no way did HP try to mimic Apple. In life there are a lot of similarities." It's an ultrabook, a category of laptops defined by Intel. Coincidentally, Intel also developed the internals of the MacBook Air. These products are looking relatively similar because their internals have been designed by the same damn company. Get over it.
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theosib
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2006-03-02

It's plain as day that Apple was being innovative with the MacBook Air and that HP is imitating aspects of that design.

But let's not forget that there were MP3 players before the iPod and smart phones before the iPhone. Apple copied what was good about those designs, implementing some learned lessons along the way. For that matter, MacOS is based on copying from what Xerox Parc did.

This happens all the time. Java imitated many aspects of AS400, while C# improves on Java, fixing many of the drawbacks. This is the advancement of technology. And now, companies like HP are pulling their heads out and realizing that some attention to appearance might be a good idea, given that Apple is whomping them.

Of course, the first company to truly compete with Apple will have to duplicate their R&D methodology, which is to design ten products for every one they market. And HP executives just don't want to risk the expenditure, which is stupid, but that's how most of the industry is. So they've decided to imitate a proven design after another company took all the risk.

Hey, this is what Burger King does. McDonalds spends a ton on figuring out the best locations to put their restaurants. … And then Burger King builds one across the street. This is the original reason why intellectual property law was developed -- to protect true innovators from being ripped off. (It's too bad that IP law has been so terribly perverted by the megacorps (Apple included) that own our equally perverted government.)

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sergio Member since:
2005-07-06

HP aren't stealing, They don't have the talent to do so. HP are doing a copy, a really bad copy.

If you copy without adding anything new you are borrowing, you are not adding value. You are destroying value. That's what HP do and It's a shame.

When you steal, you make the product your own and create from that. You add your vision, your ideas: you add value. That's what Microsoft did with Windows for example or what Apple did with iPhone.

They've stolen good ideas from here and there and created something new. That's a really good thing. What HP do is not.

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bowkota Member since:
2011-10-12

It's plain as day that Apple was being innovative with the MacBook Air and that HP is imitating aspects of that design.

But let's not forget that there were MP3 players before the iPod and smart phones before the iPhone. Apple copied what was good about those designs, implementing some learned lessons along the way. For that matter, MacOS is based on copying from what Xerox Parc did.

Well said.
As I mentioned, what they're doing makes sense. You take cues from (or you if you're that desperate you blatantly copy) your competitors.
What bothers me is people with an agenda, like Thom here, advocating that the reason for these similarities are inevitable since A FRACTION of their internals is designed by Intel. Then again it's to be expected considering his favouritism on other tech matters.

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Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

What bothers me is people with an agenda, like Thom here, advocating that the reason for these similarities are inevitable since A FRACTION of their internals is designed by Intel.


A fraction? In what world do you live? The ENTIRE board, processor, graphics chip, and cooling solution were designed by Intel - which defines a HUGE portion of the outer shell of the device. The stick hard drive, meanwhile, was developed by Toshiba or Hitachi (I forgot). Board/chip-wise, nothing came from Apple. Zero. Nada.

Then again it's to be expected considering his favouritism on other tech matters.


If no arguments > proceed to ridiculous claims.

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