Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 9th May 2012 17:09 UTC
Hardware, Embedded Systems "Leo Apotheker's disastrous tenure as HP's CEO revealed a dysfunctional company struggling for direction after a decade of missteps and scandals. Can his replacement, Meg Whitman, fix the tech giant?" As a consumer, I wish they simplified their product line-up. They have the engineering skills - I just have no idea what I'm supposed to buy when I visit their site. The choice for the ZenBook late last year instead of anything HP had to offer was elementary.
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As a consumer...
by einr on Wed 9th May 2012 20:40 UTC
einr
Member since:
2012-02-15

...I wish they'd stop pre-loading their computers with SO. MUCH. CRAPWARE. My girlfriend bought a decent HP laptop a while back, and I spent hours deleting 15+ utterly useless apps -- most of which are called HP-something, but they all have separate uninstall entries in the control panel -- just to make it boot and function normally.

If I was less tech savvy, I would have probably concluded "HP laptops are slow and terrible" and avoided the brand in the future. Not that other PC manufacturers don't bundle crapware, but I am under the impression that HP is worse than most.

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RE: As a consumer...
by WorknMan on Wed 9th May 2012 22:24 in reply to "As a consumer..."
WorknMan Member since:
2005-11-13

I don't care how much crapware they load on, as long as I get a genuine Windows install disc with the computer. The first thing I do when I get a PC like that is format and reinstall clean. If they won't provide a DVD and insist that the 'restore partition' is good enough, that is a deal-breaker for me. I don't even mind paying a little extra to get the install disc, since I know that the crapware is probably where most of their profits are coming from.

As for HP computers in general, I figure if they're selling them at Wal-mart, that's probably one brand I should avoid like the plague.

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RE[2]: As a consumer...
by alexz on Wed 9th May 2012 23:52 in reply to "RE: As a consumer..."
alexz Member since:
2012-02-25

They're selling sony, sharp, lg, panasonic and samsung too, are you avoiding them like plague?

Edited 2012-05-09 23:52 UTC

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RE[2]: As a consumer...
by Alfman on Thu 10th May 2012 00:12 in reply to "RE: As a consumer..."
Alfman Member since:
2011-01-28

WorknMan,

"I don't care how much crapware they load on, as long as I get a genuine Windows install disc with the computer. The first thing I do when I get a PC like that is format and reinstall clean."

Last month I bought a new win7 computer for someone, it fatally crashed on the third boot, and even system recovery failed to fix it. I was tempted to return the whole system but there were no hardware faults, so I did a reinstall from the supplied OEM DVD, with no crashes yet.

However the DVD did reinstall all the OEM bloatware, which I had to go through and remove a second time. So my question is, how can you get a clean windows install without purchasing a clean version of it separately?

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RE[2]: As a consumer...
by bob_bipbip on Thu 10th May 2012 06:16 in reply to "RE: As a consumer..."
bob_bipbip Member since:
2009-04-28

new hp recovery discs comes with bloatware. you can't avoid it. even after calling tech support, they told mr that there is no bloatware free recovery disc available. the only solution is to be a retail windows dvd.....
toshiba do the same....

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RE[2]: As a consumer...
by zima on Wed 16th May 2012 22:58 in reply to "RE: As a consumer..."
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

HP will now have good new excuse - more and more machines which lack optical drives.

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