Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 10th May 2012 10:08 UTC
Legal Since The Pirate Bay blockade (which is easily circumvented) has just been extended to all other ISPs in The Netherlands (logically, court orders fall outside net neutrality), here's a link to a landing page which automatically redirects Dutch visitors to a valid The Pirate Bay proxy, circumventing the blockade. The more resourceful among us can always alter their hosts file, add a redirect in their router software, change DNS servers (any pros and cons from people who actually do this?), and about a gazillion other things. The Dutch copyright lobby's next step? Blocking websites that detail how to circumvent the blockade. Hey Kuik, we're right here!
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Back to this again huh?
by jefro on Thu 10th May 2012 14:13 UTC
jefro
Member since:
2007-04-13

Not OS news. This is just a post on how to violate the laws. Rather criminal don't you think?

By the way, net neutrality has nothing to do with this subject. Guess if you were more concerned about OS news and less about how to steal stuff, you'd know that.

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RE: Back to this again huh?
by Ford Prefect on Thu 10th May 2012 14:15 in reply to "Back to this again huh?"
Ford Prefect Member since:
2006-01-16

It is not violation of a law to visit a website if there is no child porn on it.

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2006-01-16
RE[2]: Back to this again huh?
by Neolander on Thu 10th May 2012 17:39 in reply to "RE: Back to this again huh?"
Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

You forgot to also mention terrorists, you crook ;)

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RE: Back to this again huh?
by reez on Thu 10th May 2012 14:38 in reply to "Back to this again huh?"
reez Member since:
2006-06-28

By the way, net neutrality has nothing to do with this subject. Guess if you were more concerned about OS news and less about how to steal stuff, you'd know that.

Net neutrality means, that no matter what kind of data is delivered to what kind of receiver it is transmitted in the same way.

This is about both the integrity of the data and the equality when it comes to the transmission.

So if one country blocks access to a website there is no equality to any of these. For Dutch people there is an inequality when it comes to transmission of certain content. In fact there is no transmission at all (which is the exact opposite of how it should be) and since there is no data there can be no integrity.

So how isn't this related to net neutrality?

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RE: Back to this again huh?
by MOS6510 on Thu 10th May 2012 15:08 in reply to "Back to this again huh?"
MOS6510 Member since:
2011-05-12

In The Netherlands it isn't legal to download stuff, even if it's pirated. It is illegal though to offer pirated stuff. BREIN claims that people who download also offer it for upload, but that's not relevant to this case.

What is is that's it's legal for me to download, but I'm denied access to the Pirate Bay, although I can access any other torrent site. Not only am I denied pirated stuff, but also all the legal stuff that they offer. Well, they don't actually offer anything, just torrent files that point to stuff.

So it's a bit strange that in a country that has just waived the net neutrality flag that users are denied access to a site that doesn't offer illegal stuff for download, only pointers to it, while downloading is legal anyway.

Now what extra sucks for me as an IT professional that when I'm figuring out why something doesn't work I have to take in to account that my own government is "sabotaging" the Internet.

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RE[2]: Back to this again huh?
by Gusar on Thu 10th May 2012 15:11 in reply to "RE: Back to this again huh?"
Gusar Member since:
2010-07-16

Well, they don't actually offer anything, just torrent files that point to stuff

Not even that anymore, they've switched to magnet links.

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RE[2]: Back to this again huh?
by Neolander on Thu 10th May 2012 17:41 in reply to "RE: Back to this again huh?"
Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

In The Netherlands it isn't legal to download stuff, even if it's pirated.

I was just thinking that at this rate, maybe our children will need history books to realize that this is a typo...

Edited 2012-05-10 17:44 UTC

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