Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 14th May 2012 18:28 UTC
Apple "I think that Apple could be just as strong and good and be open, but how can you challenge it when a company is making that much money?", Wozniak told a crowd in Sydney, according to ITNews. They'd score so many brownie points the internet would explode.
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Gullible Jones
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2006-05-23

#4 is never going to happen, and frankly I'm fine with that.

IMO though, the best thing Apple could possibly do for its business model would be to sell a version of OSX for PCs, and try to make their way into the mainstream PC market. OSX has an enormous usability advantage over Linux, and plus brandname appeal, and it's just pretty. I'm telling you, if they did this, they could crush Microsoft overnight.

P.S. You forgot #0: "Use some of those immense cash reserves to give a decent paycheck to the workers you've been gratuitously exploiting." Seriously.

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sicofante Member since:
2009-07-08

1. OSX does not have "an enormous usability advantage over Linux". That's just your opinion. Lots of other people think otherwise.

2. PCs (iMACs, Macbooks, etc.) provide Apple just a 15% of its income (and declining). Why would they even care to "crush" Microsoft in such a small market for them? MS is already "crushed" in the market that counts: mobility. They're no one there.

Apple is fine as it is. They get the biggest profit while not having the biggest market share. They're just doing fine as company. Nobody is forced to use their products (I don't). Just leave them alone and move on.

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novad Member since:
2010-06-10

Hello everybody,

First of all, sorry for my english. As you'll quickly notice it's not very good ;-)

Even if it's only annecdotical, I just want to answer on this one

Nobody is forced to use their products (I don't). Just leave them alone and move on.


You're right... For private buyers.

I work in the headquarter of a quiet big company (for Switzerland) and have to fight everyday agains the wanna be system engineers that want to show me how much better Apple is than the PCs we gave them.

As long as these people are simple users it's not a problem... BUT when leaders (Without any idea how IT works) of this company (or friends of these leaders) start to ask you everyday about that, it becomes much more complicated.

We have about 20 Apple boxes and these machines causes more trouble than the 500 win7 boxes. USERS of these apple boxes are also a pain in the a... They will NEVER accept that their Apple box could be the cause of a problem or an incompatibility.

I don't even talk about the lack of interoperability of iPhones and iPads with the rest of the world.

From what I've heard from other system engineers it's a quiet common situation in other companies too.

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Nikato Member since:
2005-12-17

Apple has essentially destroyed the market for traditional windows PC's. This is similar to how the ebook has basically destroyed the market for traditional printed books. Apple's strategy of extinguish and re-imagine works quite well. As the market for PC's shrinks into oblivion, the Mac, will continue to hold onto its users. As much as I love the ipad, i would NEVER Sacrifice my Mac. If I can have both, Great, but Ipad only, NO WAY. Apple's market-share for Desktop Computers will start to rise sharply as the number of windows users declines. Once Microsoft has thrown in the towel on the "Dead" desktop market, Apple will be left to Re-imagine the spoils.

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zima Member since:
2005-07-06

MS is already "crushed" in the market that counts: mobility. They're no one there.

Well, MS does get royalties out of Android, the ~dominating player...

Apple is fine as it is. They get the biggest profit while not having the biggest market share. They're just doing fine as company. Nobody is forced to use their products (I don't). Just leave them alone and move on.

Still, they can be easily seen as a bit despicable - for example, it's a company with two major quite clearly stated goals of 1) blocking others from their supposed innovation 2) not interested about selling to "lesser" people (instead targeting that minuscule part of human population which brings largest profits); in effect, the goal of limiting overall human progress.

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gan17 Member since:
2008-06-03

...the best thing Apple could possibly do for its business model would be to sell a version of OSX for PCs, and try to make their way into the mainstream PC market. OSX has an enormous usability advantage over Linux, and plus brandname appeal

I agree with you on the brandname appeal. Hipsters will always be hipsters. But I disagree on the "crushing MS/Windows" thing. Strange as it may sound to you, I've noticed more and more people install Win7 on their Macbooks over the past year. Of course, they keep OSX installed, but many seem to use Win7 more often on it. Whether that's to do with their workflow needs or just a factor of familiarity, I cannot say.


... and it's just pretty

One man's hero is another's terrorist. I frankly can't stand widgety bubbly shiny stuff. Nor can I tolerate fuzzy unsharp fonts.

Probably explains why I've run either Xmonad or ScrotWM/SpectrWM on top of OSX on my workplace's Mac Pro and use them as much as I can. Even rolled back to Snow Leopard just because Lion refused to play nice with those two window managers.


P.S. You forgot #0: "Use some of those immense cash reserves to give a decent paycheck to the workers you've been gratuitously exploiting." Seriously.

All mega-corporations should be doing this, not just Apple.

Edited 2012-05-15 01:08 UTC

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