Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 14th May 2012 18:28 UTC
Apple "I think that Apple could be just as strong and good and be open, but how can you challenge it when a company is making that much money?", Wozniak told a crowd in Sydney, according to ITNews. They'd score so many brownie points the internet would explode.
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bassbeast
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2007-11-11

I'll only respond to the first one which is easy...they can't use GPL V3, sorry. To be compliant with GPL V3 thanks to the TiVo clause they would have to open ALL DRM so that one could compile and use the app on any apple device which would destroy the market. After all one could argue its their control that has kept the Apple appstore a hell of a lot cleaner and malware free than the Android appstore which has been hit by one bug after another.

So i'm sorry friend but if you think Apple, which like it or not has a history of tight grained control of their devices, is gonna give up ALL DRM just to allow GPLed apps? sorry, not gonna happen. Personally I would not be surprised if the opposite becomes true in that all appstores will simply ban GPL so you will either have to have the ability to offer it under another license or not at all as in the case of VLC.

I have noticed that more new projects are refusing contributions if you don't sign rights away which tells me the days of "everyone can contribute" will probably end up dead. After all if you can't get your app into the Apple or MSFT appstores what good is it? Between those two companies you are looking at probably 90%+ of the devices on the planet!

So as much as i like old woz i just don't see an "Open Apple" ever coming about. they make too much money with the current model and are in fact last i checked the biggest corp on the planet. does anyone really think they are gonna risk such a successful model to please such a small group? after all their customers don't seem to have a problem with the way things are judging by the lines around the block when a new iDevice is released. if it ain't broke?

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tidux Member since:
2011-08-13

That's stupid and wrong. DRM is not the same thing as control over the market. You can and should be picky about what goes in to your operating system's main repository - note the lack of viruses in Debian. DRM is just restricting what people can do with software and data they already have.

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Valhalla Member since:
2006-01-24

I'll only respond to the first one which is easy...they can't use GPL V3, sorry. To be compliant with GPL V3 thanks to the TiVo clause they would have to open ALL DRM so that one could compile and use the app on any apple device which would destroy the market.

Ehh no, and were not talking about Apple using GPLv3 here. Microsoft showed how easy it is to allow GPLvX licenced software in their marketplace by simply saying that when it comes to OSI approved licences like GPLvX then their conditions will override that of those in the market place.

And for the record the whole 'open all DRM' is pure FUD, just like hundreds of thousand sites all across the web can distribute GPLv3 licenced software without opening their web site source code so can Apple when distributing through their AppStore.

The whole thing hinges on Apple enforcing their own restrictions on the software distributed through the AppStore, which in this case is the number of copies you are allowed to make of said software. GPL explicitly allows you to make and distribute as many copies of GPL licenced software as you want, Apple says you can only make X copies and this is where the terms collide.

However as we've seen from Microsoft, it's easy to fix this problem by making OSI approved licenced excempt from this restriction. Apple doesn't want to.

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