Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 14th May 2012 22:49 UTC
Windows For weeks - if not months - I've been trying to come up with a way to succinctly and accurately explain why, exactly, Windows 8 rubs me the wrong way, usability-wise. I think I finally got it.
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RE[2]: um
by Nelson on Mon 14th May 2012 23:08 UTC in reply to "RE: um"
Nelson
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2005-11-29

Long story short, it'll never make you happy, and they don't have to

24inch triple monitor setups are a minority in the Windows ecosystem and trade offs were made.

Real world statistics indicate that Windows 8 is engineered for precisely the target audience and specs of the market it hopes to capture.

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RE[3]: um
by emarkp on Mon 14th May 2012 23:26 in reply to "RE[2]: um"
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2005-09-10

And I guess I can go to hell if I'm not in that target demo?

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RE[4]: um
by Nelson on Mon 14th May 2012 23:28 in reply to "RE[3]: um"
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2005-11-29

No, but you can deal with it or not. It just serves to give context in hopes some of you can tone down the vitriol.

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RE[4]: um
by jnemesh on Tue 15th May 2012 16:04 in reply to "RE[3]: um"
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2008-04-08

Worse...you can go to Linux! ;)

In all seriousness, this is going to finally push me to move to Linux. Although, really, its going to be less painful than my last attempt back in 2006...there is a LOT better support for the hardware that is out there, and software wise, there is a lot less compromise in the quality of available apps that run native under Linux.

People are starting to realize that they don't NEED Windows anymore. If you give them an alternative that works better, is more secure, and is actually easier to use than Windows, they WILL switch!

8 years ago, when I attempted to run Fedora 5, installing applications was a TOTAL pain! It took me HOURS just to get Adobe Flash working and playing nice with Firefox! Now, they have one-click installations and app stores. Click on what you want, and it loads. The geeky command line stuff is still there, but the average non-geek doesn't ever have to see it!

In short, the only thing going for Windows is MOMENTUM, and with Windows 8, they are going to kill even that advantage. By forcing people to learn a new OS regardless of what they choose, I think you will find many that are more willing to learn Linux than learn to live with Windows 8!

P.S. I don't even want to HEAR what you guys think about Windows 9...if Windows 9 is the saving grace of MS, they are DOOMED, because by the time Win9 is released, Windows in general will be even MORE irrelevant than it is now!

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RE[4]: um
by blahbl4hblah on Tue 15th May 2012 17:35 in reply to "RE[3]: um"
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2011-05-29

"Go to hell" is a bit strong don't you think? I've been using it on a daily basis as my workstation since the Build conference last September and it's just not that bad.

It's like anything else...its takes a couple of days to get a new install setup with all of your tools and then it works just like you think it would.

I hardly even notice the metro parts...and I've started using the windows key more when I use win7 or 2K8. (Hit win and start typing...it's nice.)

I've started using powershell for anything and everything since you can finally do that on windows. Honestly, it's much better than it is worse.

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RE[3]: um
by Beachchairs on Tue 15th May 2012 00:04 in reply to "RE[2]: um"
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2009-04-10

Long story short, it'll never make you happy, and they don't have to

24inch triple monitor setups are a minority in the Windows ecosystem and trade offs were made.

Real world statistics indicate that Windows 8 is engineered for precisely the target audience and specs of the market it hopes to capture.


With 3 (or even 2) monitors, the classic Windows desktop is always shown, so your shortcut is unneeded.

This would actually make Win8 less bothersome for super -power users.

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RE[4]: um
by Nelson on Tue 15th May 2012 00:10 in reply to "RE[3]: um"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

Does it really? Interesting. +1

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RE[3]: um
by shmerl on Tue 15th May 2012 00:43 in reply to "RE[2]: um"
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> 24inch triple monitor setups are a minority

If the OS treats some (even a minority) users as second class (consider designers, IDE users and others who need lot's of screen estate) - off to garbage should go such OS.

Edited 2012-05-15 00:44 UTC

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RE[3]: um
by Doc Pain on Tue 15th May 2012 09:48 in reply to "RE[2]: um"
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2006-10-08

Real world statistics indicate that Windows 8 is engineered for precisely the target audience and specs of the market it hopes to capture.


So that "power user guy" in the video is not in the target audience...

http://www.geek.com/articles/geek-pick/a-real-user-proves-windows-8...

Note that the music playing in Thom's head does not really fit the experience we can watch here. But you can play both videos simultaneously. :-)

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RE[3]: um
by nej_simon on Tue 15th May 2012 12:29 in reply to "RE[2]: um"
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2011-02-11

24inch triple monitor setups are a minority in the Windows ecosystem and trade offs were made.

Real world statistics indicate that Windows 8 is engineered for precisely the target audience and specs of the market it hopes to capture.


Touchscreens below 10", which is what metro is best fitted for, are a minority too. I understand that Windows 8 is Microsoft's attempt to break google's and apple's dominance in the tablet/smartphone market but by doing this they sacrifice the customers that just want a general purpose os to run on their desktop and laptop comupters.

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