Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 14th May 2012 18:28 UTC
Apple "I think that Apple could be just as strong and good and be open, but how can you challenge it when a company is making that much money?", Wozniak told a crowd in Sydney, according to ITNews. They'd score so many brownie points the internet would explode.
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MOS6510
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2011-05-12

As far as I am aware they haven't sued anyone from the iOS jail breaking community. In fact, some have landed a job at Apple.

But I don't see why they should allow the ability to freely install whatever you want. Apple will miss their cut on any sales, malware/crapware can infect iOS devices and damage the brand image, app developers might not like it being too easy for people to install cracked apps.

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Laurence Member since:
2007-03-26

As far as I am aware they haven't sued anyone from the iOS jail breaking community. In fact, some have landed a job at Apple.

They've sent plenty of cease and desist letters to web sites that offer advice as well as campaigned for it to be criminalised.

As no websites nor individuals have the resources nor income to take on Apple, cases never make it to court.

So my point stands.


But I don't see why they should allow the ability to freely install whatever you want.

Because when I buy an iPhone, I own said phone. It's now my hardware and I can do anything I want with it so long as that doesn't break any laws (eg I cannot bludgeon kids to death with it). Installing your own software does not break any laws, it only contradicts an EULA which is nether law nor been upheld in a court of law.

Hence my car comparison. I own the hardware and thus I can drive it / install whatever (legal) software I want. Apple cannot -edit: should not- dictate this to their users.


Apple will miss their cut on any sales,

Boohoo, so Apple will miss a cut on sales of products they contributed nothing towards the development of. How unfair that would be to Apple. *rolleyes*

Worse yet, they charge twice for the distribution (both the devs for adding to the app store and a percentage for each sale).

Given they pride themselves on appealing to the creative industry, the least they could do to give back to their key demographic would be to stop robbing them blind.


malware/crapware can infect iOS devices and damage the brand image, app developers might not like it being too easy for people to install cracked apps.

That's all FUD.
People who want cracked apps can already jailbreak and don't care about the ramifications of doing so. So that market wouldn't change.

And as for the malware issue, Apple could still pull apps plus if it's an opt out feature (as I suggested), then the really stupid (or paranoid) wouldn't be exposed anyway.

So your points are moot.

Edited 2012-05-15 09:53 UTC

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MOS6510 Member since:
2011-05-12


They've sent plenty of cease and desist letters to web sites that offer advice as well as campaigned for it to be criminalised.

As no websites nor individuals have the resources nor income to take on Apple, cases never make it to court.

So my point stands.


I'm not sure it does, when I do a search on "cease and desist apple jailbreak" I get nothing related to actual jail breaking and Apple making a problem of it. It seems that their stance on it is that it may void your warranty.

It also seems they only go after people abusing their logo's, trademarks and systems.


Because when I buy an iPhone, I own said phone. It's now my hardware and I can do anything I want with it so long as that doesn't break any laws (eg I cannot bludgeon kids to death with it). Installing your own software does not break any laws, it only contradicts an EULA which is nether law nor been upheld in a court of law.

Hence my car comparison. I own the hardware and thus I can drive it / install whatever (legal) software I want. Apple cannot -edit: should not- dictate this to their users.


Like I mentioned it doesn't appear Apple makes a problem of it. So go ahead and do whatever you want to do with your iPhone, but don't expect Apple to assist you to do what you want to do or help you out when you mess it up.


Boohoo, so Apple will miss a cut on sales of products they contributed nothing towards the development of. How unfair that would be to Apple. *rolleyes*

Worse yet, they charge twice for the distribution (both the devs for adding to the app store and a percentage for each sale).

Given they pride themselves on appealing to the creative industry, the least they could do to give back to their key demographic would be to stop robbing them blind.


Being in the app store makes it easier for your product to be found. Apple takes care of the hosting and financial bit. Apple just doesn't steal your money, they give something in return.


That's all FUD.
People who want cracked apps can already jailbreak and don't care about the ramifications of doing so. So that market wouldn't change.

And as for the malware issue, Apple could still pull apps plus if it's an opt out feature (as I suggested), then the really stupid (or paranoid) wouldn't be exposed anyway.

So your points are moot.


No doubt if you don't need to do anything special to install cracked apps more people would install them.

And you want Apple to spend money and recourses to police apps you install outside of their app store? I don't think they'll do that.

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Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

damage the brand image


Really. So if i buy a Ford, customize it to my liking and then it doesn't work properly that hurts Ford brand image? That's the idea here? Only in the IT industry could such amazingly stupid reasoning exist.
What I do with something after it is purchased is *my goddamn business*, no-one else's, and if I f--k up that's my problem. This works in every other industry, there's no rational reason for it not to work in IT.

Edited 2012-05-16 00:34 UTC

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MOS6510 Member since:
2011-05-12

There is, but it doesn't seem you're very interested to know why so I won't bother to explain.

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