Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 14th May 2012 22:49 UTC
Windows For weeks - if not months - I've been trying to come up with a way to succinctly and accurately explain why, exactly, Windows 8 rubs me the wrong way, usability-wise. I think I finally got it.
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zhuravlik
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2009-08-24


Apple's marketing is very good but the success of it's products, the reason it can enter and utterly disrupt established markets


I don't think market they entered was fully established. They just found the gap to fill.



thus the counter productive branding of their phone OS as 'Windows'


Windows Mobile was a very successful mobile platform. It was 'Windows', too. ;)


to blend a touch based OS with a desktop OS.

Why not? There are several desktops and laptops with touch screens. Also, interface is not touch-only oriented, though it is definitely not mouse-oriented, I agree.


Can you imagine the pain of introducing Windows 8 into a corporate setting let along trying to get your Dad to run it.

Windows 3.1 was described in one book as a "useless thing which wastes CPU cycles over plain DOS and brings an unusable device called 'mouse', which provides no advantages over command line, and only forces user to perform unneeded activity for simple commands".
It is the matter of time. One day non-computer business will not deal with general-purpose computers at all.

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Tony Swash Member since:
2009-08-22



I don't think market they entered was fully established. They just found the gap to fill.


It possible to argue the tablet market was stunted prior to the iPad because every tablet that came before the iPad was a disaster that didn't sell but the phone market and the music player market (and one could argue the software market) was full up with established big players. Apple disrupted them.


Windows Mobile was a very successful mobile platform. It was 'Windows', too. :


Which turned to dust as soon as some real competition came along. We could argue about this all day but outside of the 'geeks who like things complicated' fringe Windows has an appalling brand reputation


Why not? There are several desktops and laptops with touch screens.


And they have sold how many?


Windows 3.1 was described in one book as a "useless thing which wastes CPU cycles over plain DOS and brings an unusable device called 'mouse', which provides no advantages over command line, and only forces user to perform unneeded activity for simple commands".
It is the matter of time. One day non-computer business will not deal with general-purpose computers at all.


I think the spread of Bring Your Own Device combined with the disruption of Windows 8 might finally pry corporate IT from it's Microsoft addiction. I hope so, productivity would soar.

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Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

I think the spread of Bring Your Own Device combined with the disruption of Windows 8 might finally pry corporate IT from it's Microsoft addiction. I hope so, productivity would soar.

Care to provide a more in-depth argument for this ? I think that "fun-oriented" computers, which are used to relax before and after work, are particularly unsuitable for use at the office because they offer way too much distraction from productive work.

It's kind of like porting Office to the Xbox, replacing every machine in an accounting department with those, and expecting people to use them for administrative tasks.

Edited 2012-05-16 07:01 UTC

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zima Member since:
2005-07-06

the music player market (and one could argue the software market) was full up with established big players. Apple disrupted them.

Revisionist history, as usual. Look at actual iPod sales numbers: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ipod_sales_per_quarter.svg
It didn't really register before 2005 (and then, mostly in few quite atypical places) - by which time, the world was already moving en masse to music consumption on mobile phones (yes, before iPhone, who would have thought) - IIRC, 30% of all European mobile users by 2008 ...which only in this one market gives numbers comparable to total number of iPods ever made.

Stop looking only from inside your bubble.

(BTW software, I love how FCP crashed at least once on all official Apple presentations I've been to; NVM how it's a bit of a pig - luckily we gave Sony Vegas)

outside of the 'geeks who like things complicated' fringe Windows has an appalling brand reputation

Maybe inside your bubble.

I think the spread of Bring Your Own Device combined with the disruption of Windows 8 might finally pry corporate IT from it's Microsoft addiction. I hope so, productivity would soar.

Dream on... (not like I wouldn't be glad from smth similar, to some degree - but it will hardly come from Apple, they are unwilling to bring it, they discontinued serious XServ solutions ...companies still remember being burned on that one; plus, for Apple, most of the world and the scales it brings hardly exists - Apple openly states they don't care about "lesser" people; oh they would also need to start caring about interoperability http://www.osnews.com/permalink?518154 )

"Productivity would soar" also needs more than wishful thinking - like, you know, research trying to assess if places with higher Apple usage are more productive because of it, or if that's a simple correlation from higher levels of disposable income.
(but there is definitely once counterexample, Israel, which I would count among most productive places around ...and with negligible OSX usage; maybe because of the stereotypical thoughtfulness in spending ;) )

Edited 2012-05-22 00:15 UTC

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