Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 14th May 2012 22:49 UTC
Windows For weeks - if not months - I've been trying to come up with a way to succinctly and accurately explain why, exactly, Windows 8 rubs me the wrong way, usability-wise. I think I finally got it.
Thread beginning with comment 518420
To view parent comment, click here.
To read all comments associated with this story, please click here.
RE[8]: um
by Alfman on Wed 16th May 2012 16:52 UTC in reply to "RE[7]: um"
Alfman
Member since:
2011-01-28

Dave_K,

I agree with all your points.

When linux works out of the box, which it often does, it is great even for amateur users. But any time there are driver or configuration problems it can degenerate into a hopelessly complex nightmare due bewildering array of howtos, config files, lack of GUI tools. For example, the X11 stuff is so much more complex than it should be that I curse any time I have to make adjustments to it.

However I don't think it's fair to compare a windows system that was pre-built and pre-debugged at the factory against a linux system that was installed at home and you are the first to test it on your combination of hardware. Of course the pre-built windows system should just work, but then a pre-built linux system should too. Linux is held to a much higher expectation because it's expected to run out of the box on arbitrary hardware. Somestimes it falls short of that higher expectation (forcing users to fix things themselves at the command line), but this would happen far less often if linux were installed / supported by the vendors.

Reply Parent Score: 2

RE[9]: um
by Dave_K on Wed 16th May 2012 18:45 in reply to "RE[8]: um"
Dave_K Member since:
2005-11-16

However I don't think it's fair to compare a windows system that was pre-built and pre-debugged at the factory against a linux system that was installed at home and you are the first to test it on your combination of hardware.


You're right that it's not a fair comparison, but it is the real world situation, and it isn't going to change any time soon. The hypothetical people who'd consider switching to Linux due to Metro would be faced with installing the OS themselves. Even if they were buying a new system, Linux isn't an option from most PC retailers.

Personally I've always built my own PCs and installed the OS myself. Installing Windows has consistently been an easy and problem free experience, but even after checking my hardware on a Linux compatibility database beforehand, I've still struggled to get Linux running smoothly.

Of course that still isn't a fair comparison, not with hardware manufacturers designing their products for Windows. But pointing out who's to blame doesn't change how complex and user hostile Linux can be.

Reply Parent Score: 0

RE[10]: um
by Alfman on Wed 16th May 2012 19:26 in reply to "RE[9]: um"
Alfman Member since:
2011-01-28

Dave_K,

I'm still agreeing with all your points. There's not much more to say about it really. I do think there are more average people willing & able to try linux despite these issues. I predict linux will continue to grow as long as consumers can install it and try it on their hardware, though that might be coming to and end.

Reply Parent Score: 0