Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 18th May 2012 21:54 UTC
Windows A long - very long - blog post justifying all the ideas and choices behind Windows 8. We've all been here before, but it's nice to have it all summed up once again for easy reference in case we hit another yes/no debate on Windows 8 and keyboard and mouse. Anywho, the most interesting bit is that Microsoft has updated the theme of the traditional desktop, flattening it to achieve a very nice look.
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RE[2]: Comment by Luminair
by MollyC on Fri 18th May 2012 23:53 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by Luminair"
MollyC
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2006-07-04

I'm trying to figure out what your point is. Do you disagree with the comment, or are you upset that the comment is accurate? I can't tell what your complaining about here.

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RE[3]: Comment by Luminair
by WereCatf on Sat 19th May 2012 00:49 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Luminair"
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2006-02-15

I'm trying to figure out what your point is. Do you disagree with the comment, or are you upset that the comment is accurate? I can't tell what your complaining about here.


While your question wasn't aimed at me I thought I could also answer it: I have to disagree with that assessment. For example, something being possible to alter via undocumented or unintended ways is not designed "configurable." "Configurable" means a something where you can alter it by design, where the capability for someone or something to alter the functionings of it is intended. Even when something is designed to be configurable you often need a 3rd-party tool to actually do that.

Most software on Linux, on the other hand, is designed to be configurable; their configuration - files are generally very easily editable since they are simple text-files, their respective homepages usually document quite clearly what can be configured and how, and there often aren't any unintended or undocumented configuration options at all.

Can't really comment on OSX as I have used it only very briefly, but in general I have an image that it is a lot less configurable than Windows.

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RE[3]: Comment by Luminair
by Luminair on Sat 19th May 2012 01:09 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Luminair"
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2007-03-30

the point is they're basically saying everything the company has done is wrong. so either microsoft was always wrong, or the guys in command of the billion dollar behemoth today are wrong. these ideas are too opposed to both be right.

if you agree with that premise, you probably also agree that the people who turned microsoft into the billion dollar company weren't stupid. the people who inherited it are.

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RE[4]: Comment by Luminair
by tomcat on Sat 19th May 2012 23:12 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by Luminair"
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2006-01-06

the point is they're basically saying everything the company has done is wrong. so either microsoft was always wrong, or the guys in command of the billion dollar behemoth today are wrong. these ideas are too opposed to both be right.

if you agree with that premise, you probably also agree that the people who turned microsoft into the billion dollar company weren't stupid. the people who inherited it are.


No, it's not "wrong". It's just an alternate way of doing things and, given what has been learned about the way that people mine information, it's less effective to encapsulate everything in nested hierarchies of control panels. Many people will disagree, though; thus, nobody can really say it's "wrong".

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RE[4]: Comment by Luminair
by MollyC on Sun 20th May 2012 16:44 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by Luminair"
MollyC Member since:
2006-07-04

I see.
WereCratf gave you more credit than you deserved. Your "point" was just as inane as I suspected.

Did it ever cross your mind that people use their computing devices differently than they used to? People don't fiddle with their computer settings as much anymore. I can't remember the last time I opened the Control Panel or System Prefs on my computers (Windows and Mac), let alone manually altering registry or preference files, and I'm technically knowledgable enough to know what I'm doing; a common user would have even less desire to muck with that stuff.

Heck, back in the day of the Commodore 64, Atari 400/800, TRS-80, TI-whatever, and Apple II, a significant percentage of computer owners actually wrote their own programs. There was even a magazine called "Compute!" that had source code listings for programs written in the various BASIC languages that came with each kind of computer that computer owners would type in and run. Switch to 2012: "Compute!" magazine is long gone and what percentage of computer owners in 2012 actually type in their own programs? 0.001%? Lower?

Times change. Microsoft understands that. You don't.

Edited 2012-05-20 16:45 UTC

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