Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 18th May 2012 21:54 UTC
Windows A long - very long - blog post justifying all the ideas and choices behind Windows 8. We've all been here before, but it's nice to have it all summed up once again for easy reference in case we hit another yes/no debate on Windows 8 and keyboard and mouse. Anywho, the most interesting bit is that Microsoft has updated the theme of the traditional desktop, flattening it to achieve a very nice look.
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If you have to force it....
by ncgmac on Sat 19th May 2012 13:33 UTC
ncgmac
Member since:
2011-09-22

Nobody wants it. The debate on windows 8 isn't Metro really. It's the idea that Microsoft is trying to force a poor interface design for non-touch environments by forcing you into this full screen large icon, wish it was on my cell phone world, on your laptop/desktop. It's so simple, if they had only given folks a choice, and left the start button with the cleaned up interface, all would be right with the world. The new "UI is an app" design is actually a great idea, if you get to choose your app!

The R&D to make this happen would have been millions cheaper than the PR they have paid to justify something that clearly few will want. The touch crowd will not want legacy window apps on non-arm tablets going to the desktop, and the rest of us know how we feel about metro in our mouse and keyboard world.

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RE: If you have to force it....
by tidux on Sat 19th May 2012 18:06 in reply to "If you have to force it...."
tidux Member since:
2011-08-13

Come to Linux. We let you pick your window manager. The GUI really is just another userspace application.

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WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

Come to Linux. We let you pick your window manager. The GUI really is just another userspace application.


Unfortunately many of the issues with Linux aren't related to WM.

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tomcat Member since:
2006-01-06

Clue train: You can replace the Windows shell, as well. So what.

Edited 2012-05-19 23:14 UTC

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MollyC Member since:
2006-07-04

ngcmac's concern isn't about a "window manager" or being able to choose one (which Windows has allowed forever anyway), after all, the Windows 7 desktop is still in Windows 8. His/her complaint appears to be about the StartMenu. But there are already available 3rd-party StartMenus for Windows 8, which one can install as easily as choosing a "window manager" for Linux.

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RE: If you have to force it....
by MollyC on Sun 20th May 2012 17:05 in reply to "If you have to force it...."
MollyC Member since:
2006-07-04

If you have to force it, Nobody wants it.


Yep, exactly what command-line devotees said about GUIs back in the day. Way to prove the article's point. ;)

Edit:
Your point also reminds me of the Office "Ribbon" debate, where detractors demanded that Microsoft maintain the old UI as an option rather htan "force" folks to use the Ribbon. Microsoft was wise to reject that demand.

But in Windows 8, they're doing much less "forcing", as the Windows 7 desktop is still there anyway. If your only complaint is lack of a Start Menu, just instal StarDock's start menu. I think the Start Menu issue is way overplayed, but we'll see.

Edited 2012-05-20 17:16 UTC

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