Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 21st May 2012 04:03 UTC
Multimedia, AV "With over 3 million downloads per episode, the HBO hit series Game of Thrones is without doubt the most pirated TV-show of the season. Data gathered by TorrentFreak shows that most of the pirates come from Australia, while London tops the list of pirate cities. But why have these people turned to BitTorrent?" Because in order to get it legally, I have to take a monthly subscription costing me €15 per month. So instead, I buy the season box sets as they come out, and download them every Monday morning in the meantime.
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RE: I can't get HBO
by Ford Prefect on Mon 21st May 2012 08:12 UTC in reply to "I can't get HBO"
Ford Prefect
Member since:
2006-01-16

So why not wait until they sell the box?

Is it your citizen's right to freeload the content that others pay a subscription fee for?

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RE[2]: I can't get HBO
by arpan on Mon 21st May 2012 08:51 in reply to "RE: I can't get HBO"
arpan Member since:
2006-07-30

So why not wait until they sell the box?


The question is, whom does this benefit? Whether you watch it now, or after you get the box, the producers still get your money.

What this article is basically saying, is that if the producers made it possible for people outside the US to just buy an episode of a TV show, or subscribe to it online and get it when it is released on TV, many of them would pay for it, instead of pirating it.

It's just good business sense to sell what people wanna buy. Refusing to sell it, and then whining about piracy is just stupid.

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RE[3]: I can't get HBO
by Ford Prefect on Mon 21st May 2012 08:58 in reply to "RE[2]: I can't get HBO"
Ford Prefect Member since:
2006-01-16

You are right arpan, the business model looks outdated. I would have bought much more media myself if it would be accessible in digital form under reasonable cost and constraints.

However be reminded that it is the cable network providers that do the financing of these series, to the extend that they decide which ones get produced or not. It is natural for the rightholders then to give priority to the cable networks and not infer in their business models by selling the episodes "early". You may call this stupid, I prefer the word "outdated", but that's how the system currently works and I assume you cannot produce a series like this with Kickstarter just as of today.

All I wanted to point out is the stark self-justification that seeps from the comments here. It sounds like as if people would have no chance other than pirating to survive.

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RE[2]: I can't get HBO
by WereCatf on Mon 21st May 2012 11:14 in reply to "RE: I can't get HBO"
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

So why not wait until they sell the box?


I personally would like to buy the actual boxes, but they're ridiculously expensive here in Finland and arrive like half a year later than anywhere else. Neither of those are anything more than temporary hindrances that can be overcome with patience however, and a few months back I would likely have bought the boxes.

But alas, with the recent announcement from MAFIAA that there'll be even more unskippable FBI-warnings on DVD - and BluRay - releases and that those will be placed after you press Play -- ie. you cannot just go to toilet during them like you can during the previews -- I finally decided to not buy BluRays or DVDs anymore. There's over 1000 movies/boxes in this household, all completely legitimate, yet MAFIAA still insists on punishing me for paying for the movies?

Ergo, I pirate the shows and movies now. A Spotify-like service for TV-shows would look quite attractive to me, but I'm not aware of one at the moment that'd service Finland. Besides, it'd probably end up being just as shoddy as the few movie-streaming services I've tried, with missing subtitles, extremely poor quality, clients that push ads on your browser even when you're not watching anything..

Basically, I pirate because I am being treated like a pirate whether or not I actually do it, and because no one seems interested in providing me with a worthy online-service to use.

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RE[2]: I can't get HBO
by BeamishBoy on Tue 22nd May 2012 00:54 in reply to "RE: I can't get HBO"
BeamishBoy Member since:
2010-10-27

So why not wait until they sell the box?


Because it's more convenient to simply download each episode as it comes out than it is to wait for six to twelve months to buy a box set.

Is it your citizen's right to freeload the content that others pay a subscription fee for?


Of course not.

The main point here is that the current model by which TV series are supplied to consumers is broken. I, for instance, will not pay between £20 and £60 a month for a subscription to Sky simply for the privilege of watching the one or two shows they have that interest me. That would be a stupid waste of my time and money.

I would, however, gladly pay £2 to £5 to watch each episode of Game of Thrones online legally. I don't even require that I be able to download it; all I ask is that I can watch it whenever I want, whether that be the same time as it's broadcast on HBO in the US or perhaps up to a week after the initial broadcast.

The moment that HBO makes that deal available, I'll stop getting torrents for their shows.

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