Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 21st May 2012 04:03 UTC
Multimedia, AV "With over 3 million downloads per episode, the HBO hit series Game of Thrones is without doubt the most pirated TV-show of the season. Data gathered by TorrentFreak shows that most of the pirates come from Australia, while London tops the list of pirate cities. But why have these people turned to BitTorrent?" Because in order to get it legally, I have to take a monthly subscription costing me €15 per month. So instead, I buy the season box sets as they come out, and download them every Monday morning in the meantime.
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RE[5]: I can't get HBO
by foregam on Mon 21st May 2012 11:47 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: I can't get HBO"
foregam
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2010-11-17

So how does the British IRS know whether you've tuned your TV? Do you swear an affidavit or what? Presumably one could buy a TV set to play with a Raspberry Pi, for example.

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RE[6]: I can't get HBO
by WereCatf on Mon 21st May 2012 11:52 in reply to "RE[5]: I can't get HBO"
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

So how does the British IRS know whether you've tuned your TV? Do you swear an affidavit or what? Presumably one could buy a TV set to play with a Raspberry Pi, for example.


The tax-thing is similar to what is used here in Finland, and well, there are inspectors that travel around the country at random intervals and visit people's homes to see if they have equipment capable of receiving TV-signal. This equipment may be as much a television as it may be e.g. a tuner-card, ie. you better not own anything such if you do not want to pay, even if you do not actually use it.

You *can* buy a TV or such and not use it for watching TV-broadcasts, but you have to take it to a professional that disables the radio and signs a paper proving you've done this. Then you just show this signature to the inspector to prove that your TV isn't capable of receiving transmissions.

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RE[6]: I can't get HBO
by spudley99 on Mon 21st May 2012 12:03 in reply to "RE[5]: I can't get HBO"
spudley99 Member since:
2009-03-25

So how does the British IRS know whether you've tuned your TV? Do you swear an affidavit or what? Presumably one could buy a TV set to play with a Raspberry Pi, for example.


They're called the HMRC (Her Magesty's Revenue Collection).

They know who has a TV because the shops selling them are required to take your details and provide it to the HMRC. (that includes any TV-capable equipment such as a TV tuner card for a PC, though it doesn't [currently] cover internet-based viewing)

And yes, you can notify them that you don't have a TV at your address.

But by default, they pretty much assume any given address has a TV unless they've been notified otherwise.

I had a period a number of years ago when I didn't have a TV. They sent me the standard "You don't have a license" letter, and I sent the form back with the "I don't have a TV" box ticked. I didn't hear from them again until I bought another TV, about a year and a half later.

Yes, I agree it's not ideal, but in my experience they don't hassle you unless they have a reason to. And I'll reiterate my previous statement that I believe the license fee gives excellent value for money when compared with the subscription TV services.

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RE[7]: I can't get HBO
by Laurence on Mon 21st May 2012 12:49 in reply to "RE[6]: I can't get HBO"
Laurence Member since:
2007-03-26


I had a period a number of years ago when I didn't have a TV. They sent me the standard "You don't have a license" letter, and I sent the form back with the "I don't have a TV" box ticked. I didn't hear from them again until I bought another TV, about a year and a half later.

Yes, I agree it's not ideal, but in my experience they don't hassle you unless they have a reason to.


You've been lucky then. Or maybe the licence fee collectors have gotten more aggressive in recent years. But either way, everyone I know without a licence (which is surprisingly quite a few) has been hounded, given court summons and so forth - despite them all being 100% entitled not to pay. (they either had a TV to game but didn't watch TV or other such like).

Edited 2012-05-21 12:52 UTC

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RE[7]: I can't get HBO
by zima on Mon 28th May 2012 23:59 in reply to "RE[6]: I can't get HBO"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

They know who has a TV because the shops selling them are required to take your details and provide it to the HMRC. (that includes any TV-capable equipment such as a TV tuner card for a PC

So, I wonder how many "sometimes viewers" bring TV tuners for their PCs from abroad...

BTW bringing stuff from abroad (cigarettes, most notably...) and ways of encouraging people to pay, there was this "commercial" of sorts directed at immigrants (with the overall message of ~"not being a citizen (or is it 'subject'? ;) ) doesn't exempt you from this obligation") ...so hilariously bad that it found its way to at least one (mine) of "origin" countries: at least the "Polish" of collector only sounded like Polish to average English-speaking person, I suppose, but it... well, it was an incomprehensible gibberish. I have my doubts about how well it worked... ;)

Edited 2012-05-29 00:09 UTC

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