Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 21st May 2012 20:03 UTC
Windows For Microsoft, the traditional desktop is old news. It's on its way out, it's legacy, and the harder they claim the desktop has equal rights, the sillier it becomes. With companies, words are meaningless, it's actions that matter, and here Microsoft's actions tell the real story. The company has announced the product line-up for Visual Studio 11, and the free Express can no longer be used to create desktop applications. Message is clear.
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RE: No problem
by ssokolow on Mon 21st May 2012 22:22 UTC in reply to "No problem"
ssokolow
Member since:
2010-01-21

Will just use mingw, which works fine.


The question is what newcomers will use. I wonder if mingw-based IDEs primarily geared for alternative class libraries (eg. Qt Designer) will gain any market share from this.

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RE[2]: No problem
by Nelson on Mon 21st May 2012 23:20 in reply to "RE: No problem"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

I'll save you the wondering. The answer is no.

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RE[2]: No problem
by Nth_Man on Tue 22nd May 2012 11:33 in reply to "RE: No problem"
Nth_Man Member since:
2010-05-16

The Qt creator
http://qt.nokia.com/products/developer-tools
installer includes everything to start developing applications. And it's free/libre software :-) .

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RE[3]: No problem
by MORB on Tue 22nd May 2012 12:00 in reply to "RE[2]: No problem"
MORB Member since:
2005-07-06

Yep, just use qt creator.

Visual C++ is a terrible IDE anyway, and Qt is a much better toolkit than microsoft ever managed to make (I've used MFC, windows forms and WPF, and they're all shit in a way or another)

No big loss.

Edited 2012-05-22 12:00 UTC

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RE[3]: No problem
by pgquiles on Tue 22nd May 2012 20:15 in reply to "RE[2]: No problem"
pgquiles Member since:
2006-07-16

Ironically Qt Creator 2.5, released last week, no longer includes MinGW. They removed it because of legal reasons:

"updating the shipped version is a legal hassle as long as the binaries are provided through Nokia"

http://labs.qt.nokia.com/2012/05/09/qt-creator-2-5-0-released/

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RE[2]: No problem
by henderson101 on Tue 22nd May 2012 21:34 in reply to "RE: No problem"
henderson101 Member since:
2006-05-30

Personally, for Windows .Net dev, I'd look at Mono Develop or Sharp Develop. Probably the latter.

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