Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 21st May 2012 23:47 UTC
Legal "He's one of 10 reverse-engineers working full time for a stealthy company funded by some of the biggest names in technology: Apple, Microsoft, Research In Motion, Sony, and Ericsson. Called the Rockstar Consortium, the 32-person outfit has a single-minded mission: It examines successful products, like routers and smartphones, and it tries to find proof that these products infringe on a portfolio of over 4,000 technology patents once owned by one of the world's largest telecommunications companies. When a Rockstar engineer uncovers evidence of infringement, the company documents it, contacts the manufacturer, and demands licensing fees for the patents in question. The demand is backed by the implicit threat of a patent lawsuit in federal court." And then people wonder why I call Apple and Microsoft patent trolls. These are the people destroying this industry, with Apple, Microsoft, RIM, etc. money. Sickeningly low.
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kwan_e
Member since:
2007-02-18

Where do I mention Apple? If I extend the quote:

If a company abuses a patent once Thom and you label them a patent troll, I don't. I'd say they abused a patent once.

I said "if a company abuses a patent once", not "if Apple abuses a patent once" or even "Apple abused a patent once".

Edit: Ah, you quickly edited your reply which originally said:

No joke:
http://www.osnews.com/thread?518394

""I'd say they abused a patent once."


It was irrelevant to the original discussion. Your subsequent rewriting of history has nothing to do with the original statement made by Thom in which Microsoft and Apple and a few others were mentioned explicitly.

Maybe if you understood what you were replying to originally, then maybe you would have made a better point...

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MOS6510 Member since:
2011-05-12

The discussion took a turn in to the realms of what defines a patent troll.

I did NOT state that Apple only once abused a patent. That's what you accuse me of and that's not what happened. You know it didn't and that's why you quickly changed your reply. You didn't just edit it, you completely changed it.

Don't give me that crap about it not being relevant.

If you want to take cheap shots at people at least make sure you do it honestly.

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kwan_e Member since:
2007-02-18

I did NOT state that Apple only once abused a patent. That's what you accuse me of and that's not what happened. You know it didn't and that's why you quickly changed your reply. You didn't just edit it, you completely changed it.


I completely changed it because I realized you wouldn't understand my point unless I spelt it out completely, and it seems you still don't.

Here's the run-down:

Thom made some statement about Microsoft, Apple and a few others about them being patent trolls.

You came up with some reply that they are not trolls, because if a company abused a patent once, they are "a company that abused a patent once".

However, the context was already set by Thom that the companies in question were the ones mentioned. Therefore, your reply about a hypothetical company abusing a patent once does no apply to the very real companies that do exist and have abused more than one patent.

Your rhetorical example is irrelevant because we never were talking about hypothetical companies.

By continuing to claim relevance, you are implying that either the mentioned companies only abused one patent, or that their patent abuse is no worse than one patent one time. You did not say it. But you may as well have said it.

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