Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 21st May 2012 20:03 UTC
Windows For Microsoft, the traditional desktop is old news. It's on its way out, it's legacy, and the harder they claim the desktop has equal rights, the sillier it becomes. With companies, words are meaningless, it's actions that matter, and here Microsoft's actions tell the real story. The company has announced the product line-up for Visual Studio 11, and the free Express can no longer be used to create desktop applications. Message is clear.
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RE[3]: What will their use be?
by lucas_maximus on Wed 23rd May 2012 05:10 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: What will their use be?"
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I appreciate the restrictions been lifted, but the Visual Studio Express is soo cut down, you can make a small e-commerce website out of it.

It is still meant for learning and hobbyists.

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henderson101 Member since:

Not at all. It depends on what school of development you come from. When I started development, Intelisense and code completion did not exist. I had to type 100% of the code, and you know what? I knew what to type. Relying on the IDE to do all the work verges on brogrammer. Not that I'm implying you are incapable of any of the above, but honestly, it's down to your own way of working.

Honestly, Indy development houses do use Visual Studio 2010 express, especially for Niche .Net 4.0, which isn't available in 2008 anyway. People are making good money from free tools. This also completely ignores Sharp Develop and Mono Develop, the latter being more or less on a par with Express.

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lucas_maximus Member since:

OMG ... I can't believe you are pulling the "Real Developers don't need an IDE card". I am not even going to debate this point (I used to do all my Java development using VIM btw).

Also .NET 4.0 is hardly "niche", any .NET 2.0+ project can easily be upgraded.

Anyway from the horses mouth,

"Visual Studio 2010 Express is a set of free, entry-level products with streamlined interfaces and core capabilities that help you create applications for a single platform."

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