Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 23rd May 2012 18:25 UTC
Legal We've got some really good news for all of you: the jury verdict in the patent phase of the Oracle v. Google trial is in, and it's a unanimous one: no patent infringement. This means that the most Oracle could possibly get out of this is a few hundred thousand dollars if (and that's a very big if) judge Alsup rules that APIs are copyrightable. Oracle pretty much lost everything. Permit me to say, in your face, Ellison.
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by Modafinil on Wed 23rd May 2012 20:32 UTC in reply to "RE: ..."
Modafinil
Member since:
2012-04-28

Only if suing google was the only reason why they bought sun.

They also got Solaris, Java copyrights/ official control of language, Sparc, and Mysql.


All true, but all of those things (bar the control) were all freely available for anyone to use and modify.

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by cyrilleberger on Wed 23rd May 2012 21:23 in reply to "RE[2]: ..."
cyrilleberger Member since:
2006-02-01

"They also got Solaris, Java copyrights/ official control of language, Sparc, and Mysql.


All true, but all of those things (bar the control) were all freely available for anyone to use and modify.
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You cannot modify Java if you are not Oracle, and Sparc is also proprietary. Now, whether it is worth 7 billions $ is an other question (but then Facebook was valued at a 100 billions...)

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by Bill Shooter of Bul on Wed 23rd May 2012 22:07 in reply to "RE[3]: ..."
Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

You cannot modify Java and still call it Java without going through the certification process, but you can modify it and call it Jim's funky Language as long as you follow the GPL and other associated licenses.

http://openjdk.java.net/

Just looked there now, Ironically one of the companies to go through the certification process: Google.

http://openjdk.java.net/groups/conformance/JckAccess/jck-access.htm...

Obviously, this certification must relate to something other than Android as Sun/Oracle refuse to start the certification process on anything that runs on a mobile device. Which makes me wonder about Windows 8 and arm.

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by Modafinil on Thu 24th May 2012 01:15 in reply to "RE[3]: ..."
Modafinil Member since:
2012-04-28

You cannot modify Java if you are not Oracle, and Sparc is also proprietary. Now, whether it is worth 7 billions $ is an other question (but then Facebook was valued at a 100 billions...)


Java is GPL, ANYONE can use, modify and distribute GPL code quite freely.
http://openjdk.java.net/

SPARC is fully open-source, again, anyone can use, modify and distribute it quite freely.
http://www.opensparc.net/

Oracle didn't need to buy Sun to use and modify Java nor SPARC, nor the GPL MySQL.

Thanks for modding me down "incorrect" btw. I'd return the favour seeing as you actually are incorrect but I can't. :rolleyes:

edit:Cleanup

Edited 2012-05-24 01:16 UTC

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