Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 23rd May 2012 16:13 UTC
Google Google CEO Larry Page was interviewed on Charlie Rose recently, and there was certainly some interesting stuff in there. Sadly, the interview suffers from the curse of modern journalism in that it was all a bit timid and civil (no truly harsh and confronting questions), but despite that, it's still a good watch. Two quotes from Page really stood out to me.
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RE[2]: are you kidding?
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Thu 24th May 2012 05:10 UTC in reply to "RE: are you kidding?"
Bill Shooter of Bul
Member since:
2006-07-14

Not Oracle, but sun was a major player in the mobile space. There is a reason why Sun wouldn't bless the apache harmony project as Java. Sun had licensed JavaME (Mobile Edition) to dumb phone makers. They have zero market now, due in no small part to google's actions. I totally understand why they *feel* like they've been screwed over. However they weren't in a legal sense.

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RE[3]: are you kidding?
by JAlexoid on Thu 24th May 2012 16:51 in reply to "RE[2]: are you kidding?"
JAlexoid Member since:
2009-05-19

They have zero market now, due in no small part to google's actions.

Sorry, what?!?!
J2ME or Java ME was essentially killed off when iPhone came out without support for it. If anything, Oracle should be kissing Google's feet for keeping Java(in whatever form it is) in the mobile market.

Sun had the most to do with Java ME's destruction.

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RE[4]: are you kidding?
by Thom_Holwerda on Thu 24th May 2012 17:25 in reply to "RE[3]: are you kidding?"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Don't you get it? Only Apple is allowed to demolish competitors.

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RE[4]: are you kidding?
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Thu 24th May 2012 20:06 in reply to "RE[3]: are you kidding?"
Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

Yes Apple also played a huge part in killing JavaME. But having a Java-like environment that was good and free didn't help keep JavaME afloat.

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RE[3]: are you kidding?
by zima on Sun 27th May 2012 02:51 in reply to "RE[2]: are you kidding?"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

Not Oracle, but sun was a major player in the mobile space. [...] Sun had licensed JavaME (Mobile Edition) to dumb phone makers. They have zero market now

Micro Edition.

Also, "zero" isn't quite right... NVM huge existing base, it still ships on tons of less expensive devices (I wouldn't be surprised if on more devices than all smartphone OS ones combined) - "dumb phones"* like Nokia S40 or most of what Samsung sells.
And not only "dumb phones" - Bada and Symbian include it, too.

Yeah, its prospects are not great, but it's out there and will still serve an important role for quite some time.
(I mean, one of the most popular j2me apps is the #1 mobile browser - and its users, usually on "dumb phone" handsets ( http://www.opera.com/smw/2011/11/ ), do increasingly seek out games, social apps, utilities http://www.opera.com/smw/2012/03/ )

* but really, if we'd try to apply any resemblance of rigorous definition, S40 is more of a smartphone than iPhone in its first year...
Or what about such very popular "dumb phones" like LG Cookie, Samsung Corby or Star? ("sub-Bada" touchscreens http://www.mobile-review.com/review/samsung-star2-s5260-rev-en.shtm... )

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