Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 25th May 2012 07:39 UTC
Legal Dish' DVR has an 'auto-hop' feature, which automatically skips commercials on recorded TV. Fox is now suing Dish over this feature, because they claim it will destroy the business model of ad-driven television. "We were given no choice but to file suit against one of our largest distributors, Dish Network, because of their surprising move to market a product with the clear goal of violating copyrights and destroying the fundamental underpinnings of the broadcast television ecosystem," said Fox. This is the photographic film industry suing digital camera makers. It's so utterly absurd I can hardly believe it's for real.
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by kurkosdr on Fri 25th May 2012 11:57 UTC
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2011-04-11

"How does skipping ads violate copyright?"

Isn't anything except viewing the media just like Fox wants, on devices Fox wants, copyright infringement according to Fox?

Unfortunately they do the campaign donations needed to turn this nonsense into law.

These are the people who considered rewinding a rented videotape "copyright infringement" (srsly). The real reason the studios sued betamax is because it competed with their Cartrivision format, which had special tapes for rental movies that couldn't be rewound. Imagine if the DMCA existed back then.

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Edited 2012-05-25 12:00 UTC

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by Thom_Holwerda on Fri 25th May 2012 12:02 in reply to "Re:"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

I think it goes something like this:

- when you buy a DVD, you pay money for it. By downloading it, you are not paying money, and thus, deprive us of potential income > stealing.

- when you watch TV, you watch the commercials, and thus, pay for it. If you do not watch the commercials, you are not paying, and this, deprive us of potential income > stealing.

It's fcuking retarded, but hey, not my reasoning.

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by phoudoin on Fri 25th May 2012 12:27 in reply to "RE: Re:"
phoudoin Member since:
2006-06-09

- when you watch TV, you watch the commercials,


True only if there is *only* commercials on a TV channel. I know, many of us will say it's the case, but let's be honest, it's not actually the case. Saying it's *mostly* commercials would be true, though ;-)

So, considering that, you can perfectly watch TV without watching commercial, since day one : nothing, absolutely nothing forbid the viewer to NOT watch the display while commercials are broadcasted, by going to the fridge or another commodity place in his home, or simply snozzing on his couch during that time.

By following their... their *logic*, any TV devices are violated since start broadcaster's "copyright" and their business model would have die since long already.

As it's not the case, I guess something is broken somewhere in their argument.

I wonder where. Really.

PS: since when a business model should never die, and since when it should be protected of any threat by Justice!? What happened to free market, open concurrency and so on?

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by phoudoin on Fri 25th May 2012 12:44 in reply to "RE: Re:"
phoudoin Member since:
2006-06-09

Ooops, duplicate post.

Edited 2012-05-25 12:44 UTC

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by redshift on Fri 25th May 2012 19:23 in reply to "RE: Re:"
redshift Member since:
2006-05-06

Even when I watch TV the old fashioned way without ad skipping I rarely pay attention to them. That is always a good moment to hit the restroom or to get a drink. I guess fox would like to have us all watching TV Clockwork Orange style. Anything less is piracy to them.

What ever... they canceled Firefly and left me hanging on the Sarah Connor Chronicles. Nothing has caught my interest on cable in some time, so I am planning on going net only anyway. HD is less compressed over the air for local channels too. I have been able to catch my Doctor Who on iTunes, and I can wait and watch other stuff on Netflix. I would just as soon wait to find out that the show gets a proper ending before I invest myself in watching it.

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