Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 25th May 2012 14:55 UTC
General Unix James Hague: "But all the little bits of complexity, all those cases where indecision caused one option that probably wasn't even needed in the first place to be replaced by two options, all those bad choices that were never remedied for fear of someone somewhere having to change a line of code... They slowly accreted until it all got out of control, and we got comfortable with systems that were impossible to understand." Counterpoint by John Cook: "Some of the growth in complexity is understandable. It's a lot easier to maintain an orthogonal design when your software isn't being used. Software that gets used becomes less orthogonal and develops diagonal shortcuts." If there's ever been a system in dire need of a complete redesign, it's UNIX and its derivatives. A mess doesn't even begin to describe it (for those already frantically reaching for the comment button, note that this applies to other systems as well).
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RE: Levels of design
by zima on Fri 25th May 2012 16:46 UTC in reply to "Levels of design"
zima
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In contrast with other operating systems it's often the other way around, where the userspace apps and controls are well designed and mesh together, but the underlying system is often a mess.

What? "Other operating systems" (at least where the userspace apps and controls are distinct enough to warrant talking about them like that; embedded OS are really outside of it, as are hobby OS) basically means... Windows - not much of anything other non-*nix around.

And the underlying system in that case, NT kernel and its immediate surroundings, is hardly a mess... seems to be less of a mess than typical *nix, actually.
(plus OTOH, I wouldn't really call win apps "well designed and mesh together" - they, and the compromises forced by them, are the real reason for poor reputation of Windows)

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